Chisoxfn Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 SN Report: Not Done Dealing, Sox Looking to Add Arm By Mario Scalise July 2, 2003 SoxNet.net (SN Report #550) - If you thought the White Sox were done in the trade market after making deals for both Roberto Alomar and Carl Everett, think again. Reports throughout the majors have the Sox making a run for a pitcher, which could be the Orioles' Sidney Ponson. A rumor late Tuesday night had the White Sox negotiating a trade with the New York Yankees for pitcher Jeff Weaver. Trade talks for the 26-year-old broke down last week when the Yankees reportedly asked for the highly-touted lefty pitching prospect Neal Cotts. Any new deal will likely involve the Sox dealing major league players. As for Ponson, who the White Sox have expressed interest in many times over the last three season's, chances are that with him being on the final year of his contract, he will be dealt by July 31. The Orioles are considering offering Ponson a three-year deal, but the chances are slim. If this is the case, the White Sox may finally be able to work a deal, especially with Baltimore willing to taking on a high-priced player in return if a prospect is included. Ponson, 26, is 10-5 this season with a 3.96 ERA in 109 innings. At this pace, Ponson will throw 200-plus innings for the first time since 2000, post an ERA below 4.00 for the first time in his career, and win 20 games. In 15 starts, 17 games, this season, Weaver is 4-6 with a 5.59 ERA. He was traded to the Yankees from Detroit in a three-team deal in 2002, but has yet to reach his full potential, winning just nine games. Weaver started his career back in 1999 with the Tigers, posting a 39-43 record and 4.33 ERA in 714 2/3 innings. Another trade possibility is acquiring pitcher Brian Lawrence from the San Diego Padres. Lawrence is 5-9 with a 4.67 ERA this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 I'd take Lawrence or Ponson(Ponson especially if they take Paully). I hope we don't get Weaver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 MY MAN B-LAW WOULD LOOK GREAT IN GREY AND BLACK WITH SOME RUN PRODUCTION BEHIND HIM!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 I still say a three way deal would be sweet involving the Sox, Yankees and Orioles. Especially if Baltimore is willing to pay money to take Weaver. CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 I agree Ponson is a Better Choice. Put Ponson on a Good Club and watch the kid has a great arm. Lawrence is good too. Needs good defense tho doesn't throw hard but get's guys out. F Weaver, Don't want that pot smoking asshole on our team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 I agree....Ponson over Weaver ANYDAY!! I think Ponson, coupled with Buehrle, Garland, and Loaiza(we have the 2004 option correct?) are a damn strong top 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 I agree....Ponson over Weaver ANYDAY!! I think Ponson, coupled with Buehrle, Garland, and Loaiza(we have the 2004 option correct?) are a damn strong top 4. How many years are left on Ponson's contract? CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 FA after this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 3, 2003 Author Share Posted July 3, 2003 I'd take Lawrence or Ponson(Ponson especially if they take Paully). I hope we don't get Weaver. I'd love to get a hold of Lawrence or Ponson. Pads wouldn't likely get too much for Lawrence. He's been struggling and just signed a relatively cheap 3 year deal (3 mill a year or so; Cheap in my mind) but the Pads seem willing to move him for not too much. Too bad they wouldn't want Jimenez back Ponson would be the best pickup cause they could move Konerko's salary for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Hopefully the sox are not dumb enough to trade paully... unless you get a petite or someone better than ponson.... frank may or may not return next year, paully is locked up for a few years, ponson would be a FA and we would need a 1B/dh if frank doesnt come back We dont want weaver... Boras da agent If you remember, we originally drafted Weaver, but couldnt sign him, so the tigers got him no way and ponson doesnt knock your socks off either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Ponson would be the best pickup cause they could move Konerko's salary for him. You can not be serious. You want to get rid of Paul? I admit he is doing horrible this season, but you don't just give up on a guy that put up his numbers over the past few years. I'm not just saying this because he hit a HR last night either. Ponson is not worth a guy of Konerko's stature. I don't understand why we need another pitcher so badly that we are willing to give up good prospects or solid major leaguers for one. Ponson is an above average pitcher, but I don't think we need to sell the farm for a #4 starter. Lawrence would be a waste of prospects for. 4.67 ERA and you guys want him? Why bother? That's hardly an upgrade and he would be going to the AL so expect that to go up a bit. We don't need another Danny Wright. KW should simply go after a middle reliever for a low price and then he is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Don't discount the possibility of Benson from Pitt either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I also wouldn't rule out Vazquez from the Expos, they need to dump him while they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I also wouldn't rule out Vazquez from the Expos, they need to dump him while they can. Seems like the Expos are actually serious about winning, for now. I would highly doubt Vazquez being dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 3, 2003 Author Share Posted July 3, 2003 Seems like the Expos are actually serious about winning, for now. I would highly doubt Vazquez being dealt. Well we know the Sox had interest in Vazquez earlier in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosk8 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 What's wrong with Wright? For some reason I really like the guy. I think it's his guts when he pitches. He's a fighter. If he can ever harness his talent and become consistent, he'll be fine. Right now you just don't know which Danny is gonna show up, Wright or wrong. I guess in the midst of a pennant race you don't want to rely on that type of guy. I just don't want him included in any trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 3, 2003 Author Share Posted July 3, 2003 You can not be serious. You want to get rid of Paul? I admit he is doing horrible this season, but you don't just give up on a guy that put up his numbers over the past few years. I'm not just saying this because he hit a HR last night either. Ponson is not worth a guy of Konerko's stature. I don't understand why we need another pitcher so badly that we are willing to give up good prospects or solid major leaguers for one. Ponson is an above average pitcher, but I don't think we need to sell the farm for a #4 starter. Lawrence would be a waste of prospects for. 4.67 ERA and you guys want him? Why bother? That's hardly an upgrade and he would be going to the AL so expect that to go up a bit. We don't need another Danny Wright. KW should simply go after a middle reliever for a low price and then he is done. In regards to Konerko he is my favorite player on the White Sox. The only reason I advise trading him is because I think his 8 million a year salary will really be a thorn to the low budget Sox. If JR doesn't let PK's salary effect him then I don't have a problem keeping him. Ponson isn't weak though. ERA is under 4 and he is on pace to win 20 games and can give innings. He's got a dynamite arm and I am alwasy a fan of having lots of pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 The guys on the block are: Leiter, Trachsel, Ponson, Weaver, and some other guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iguana Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 i have seen a rumor about Kevin Brown.....that would definitely blow my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 KEVIN BROWN!!!!!!! Gotta link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iguana Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 KEVIN BROWN!!!!!!! Gotta link? no.....maybe it was just speculation. i saw it on a bears msg board and also WSI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Al Leiter is a freakin train wreck. He's gone waaaaay downhill in just one year. Last year he was still solid Ponson has always been highly touted, like Weaver. Maybe the correct coaching can harness them into the studs they were thought out to be years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 no.....maybe it was just speculation. i saw it on a bears msg board and also WSI. Iguana, didn't your momma warn you about hanging out with bad influences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iguana Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Iguana, didn't your momma warn you about hanging out with bad influences? yea, but i never listen. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I doubt we would be able to get Lawernce. According to ESPNInsider, the pitcher the Pads are tring to trade is jarvis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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