max power Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Crede never had any value anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 07:14 PM) He's got great sources. And re: steroids -- I just don't see the league taking all that much action or the union allowing it. Even without Sheffield for awhile, Detroit's offense is top-notch. On this, there's always a possibility that MLB takes no action because there is an on-going criminal investigation from the Florida pharmacies. The players might have to testify and, in order to ensure that they are biased, won't be disciplined. I'm not just making this up. A Major League Baseball attorney told my class as much. He also said he expected to see disciplinary action, but you never know. QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 07:14 PM) We'd have a couple of things in our favor though. 1 - Surely he'd put up better numbers at the Cell instead of Comerica. Would help in his HR chase of A-Rod someday. 2 - The relationship with Ozzie. The big plus for us. Obviously it's going to cost a lot, but I think we'll have some big salaries coming off the books then. I don't think Ozzie will matter. If the Sox suck he's not going to want to play here, and I'm doubtful the Sox will beat the Tigers. But that's years away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 The solution is simple: the Tigers want to sign Cabrera to an extension, and we need a CF. Can we trade Ozzie for Granderson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Well, not this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 06:17 PM) Well, you dont see it, but ESPN does. For now I will consider them a little closer to the situation, though you ARE closer to the Eisenhower. Van Dyke also just said we are in on Jones. I fully expect us to take a run at him tonight. Like I said -- even if MLB suspends people based on the Mitchell Report, it's not like the Tigers are f***ed without Gary. And I don't know where you get whatever you're getting from Dyke, but Cowley sez: White Sox brass is reeling today after their proposed deal for Florida third baseman Miguel Cabrera fell apart. Cabrera appears headed to Detroit. But Ken Williams said rumors that the Sox are in play for Andruw Jones are completely unfounded. Weeks ago, Williams spoke about landing “the big fish’’ this winter, and the assumption was made that he was speaking of free agent outfielder Torii Hunter. Williams confirmed that he had talks with Florida. In a blockbuster deal that could have sent four or five Sox prospects to the Marlins, Williams would have gotten the 24-year-old Cabrera for a package of third baseman Josh Fields, starting pitcher Lance Broadway, and one of the lefty starters in either John Danks or Gio Gonzalez. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 06:30 PM) The solution is simple: the Tigers want to sign Cabrera to an extension, and we need a CF. Can we trade Ozzie for Granderson? Fathom, you had my vote for GM about a year and a half ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 04:29 PM) And inge just ruined any trade value Crede had. Is it possible the Tigers will be thinking about moving him back to C to compensate for when they let Pudge walk next offseason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 06:31 PM) Like I said -- even if MLB suspends people based on the Mitchell Report, it's not like the Tigers are f***ed without Gary. And I don't know where you get whatever you're getting from Dyke, but Cowley sez: lol Dyke said it 5 min ago on chicago tribune live. He said they were never close, and looking at the "package" that Cowley presents, i agree with Van Dyke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 06:32 PM) Is it possible the Tigers will be thinking about moving him back to C to compensate for when they let Pudge walk next offseason? Morosi said that Inge, thames and Durbin are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Well hopefully at least now, this shows KW the importance of having a damn good farm system. It's been neglected for years, and no longer can that continue if this team wants to get back on top of the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hopefully this shows Reinsdorf how to be an Owner, more than Williams how to GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 06:37 PM) Hopefully this shows Reinsdorf how to be an Owner, more than Williams how to GM Frankly it should set off moves in 1 of two directions. They will either go for it all and spend a ton of money on Jones and another arm, or completely start the revamp period by dealing Konerko etc. Frankly I think the team may be set albeit two small deals. Good for 3rd place in the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Well if KW is 0-2 on the REAL 'big fish' who the hell is left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 06:40 PM) Well if KW is 0-2 on the REAL 'big fish' who the hell is left? Frankly im really glad he didnt sign Hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 06:40 PM) Well if KW is 0-2 on the REAL 'big fish' who the hell is left? We still need a leadoff hitter, Scotty Pods / green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Wow, with this deal, there are about 5 teams that are hands-down better than the Sox (two are in our own division). The Angels, Indians, Tigers, Yankees (especially with the possible acquisition of Santana), and Red Sox. We really should have started to rebuild when we had the chance. Or, you know, made some serious moves this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Does anyone really think Konerko is going to be traded ? I don't. I'm not saying that the White Sox shouldn't look to shake things up either, but I think Kenny sees him as sort of a rock in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Interesting that the Palm Beach Post guy hasn't posted on his blog since the "halls were buzzing...." Who else could the Sox be targeting besides Fukudome/Jones/Rowand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Well, you cant compete with that team now, with a Jerry Owens on the field. They are too far into this with the Cabrera trade & Linebrink signing to rebuild. We simply have to catch the ball now. Either Aaron or Jones HAS to be signed now-or we are 3rd place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 07:44 PM) Wow, with this deal, there are about 5 teams that are hands-down better than the Sox (two are in our own division). The Angels, Indians, Tigers, Yankees (especially with the possible acquisition of Santana), and Red Sox. We really should have started to rebuild when we had the chance. Or, you know, made some serious moves this offseason. Yeah, I like the serious move to the NL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 07:44 PM) Wow, with this deal, there are about 5 teams that are hands-down better than the Sox (two are in our own division). The Angels, Indians, Tigers, Yankees (especially with the possible acquisition of Santana), and Red Sox. We really should have started to rebuild when we had the chance. Or, you know, made some serious moves this offseason. Gotta imagine that KW will look into moving PK to teams that lost out on Cabrera. Don't know if any move is really out there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 As an FYI, my friends dad coached Maybin when he was a kid and projected the kid as a future star. He is only 20 years old and a great acquisition for the marlins. And we can ALL thank UIC for producing Granderson which made Maybin expendable and brought about this trade. im going over to egg the campus later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 With Johan to the Sawx and Miggy to the Tigers, the National League should withdraw from the World Series. Frankly the Willis pickup doesn't do much for the Tigers but man oh man is Miggy a stud. Its too bad we have a bunch of 35 year olds because I'd be more than willing to accept rebuilding because the division is not looking too good for us now. Hell a rebuilding Minnesota might be better than us "going for it now" and thats even without Johan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 06:53 PM) The chances are great Minny makes the playoffs before the Sox. Minny making the playoffs and great shouldnt even be in the same post. They've lost a middle of the order hitter and their best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 06:47 PM) Interesting that the Palm Beach Post guy hasn't posted on his blog since the "halls were buzzing...." Who else could the Sox be targeting besides Fukudome/Jones/Rowand? I think Crisp possibly, but I don't know of any other major offensive hitters the caliber of Cabrera on the market. Maybe they change gears, and go after Haren or Bedard, but something tells me that they can't match the prospects other teams will be throwing up for those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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