BobDylan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Dec 11, 2007 -> 10:51 AM) K, that's a bullpen arm and a 200 inning starter for 2009 gone for a 2Bman whose entire offensive game depends upon his average. If he hits .270, he's a bad player. That's a really dumb trade. Considering his career average is .293, it's a risk worth listening to. Look at it this way, we have Cabrera for one year--and at a pretty hefty price in Jon Garland. A second in the order hitter doesn't quite give you full value unless you put a good lead-off hitter in front of him. We saw that with Iguchi and Podsednik. Crede most likely isn't going to be back next season, and if KW is in this "going for it all" mentality, why not pick up Figgins even if you have to overpay? If it doesn't work out, you ship out the Konerko's, Thome's and Cabrera's at the break and probably land a few pieces back that are better than Broadway and Egbert. I mean, are Broadway and Egbert really so good that we have to forfeit a legitimate lead-off hitter? Edited December 12, 2007 by BobDylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(greg775 @ Dec 11, 2007 -> 06:14 PM) Why was the reaction on here a joke? Detroit has one of the most fearsome lineups on paper in a long time. You say we aren't going to win next year anyway? Uh ... it was KW's job to tinker and make sure we do win. Any team with Thome, Konerko, Dye, Mark B and Vasquez with Bob Jenks has a nucleus. These are veteran players. Why shouldn't we expect our GM to do his job?? The reaction on here was fine. *cough* Yankees *cough* A long time is an overstatement. And besides, pitching and defense wins it for you in the playoffs, not offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(BobDylan @ Dec 11, 2007 -> 07:54 PM) *cough* Yankees *cough* A long time is an overstatement. And besides, pitching and defense wins it for you in the playoffs, not offense. How many times have the Yankees been to the playoffs in a row. Pitching and Defense might win you championships, but a violent and overwhelming offense seems to do the trick to get you to the playoffs. You cant win the WS if you dont get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 11, 2007 -> 08:06 PM) How many times have the Yankees been to the playoffs in a row. Pitching and Defense might win you championships, but a violent and overwhelming offense seems to do the trick to get you to the playoffs. You cant win the WS if you dont get in. I don't understand your point. Are you saying we should acquire more sluggers? I'd personally rather stack my pitching staff than my batting lineup. Not to mention, both Detroit and NY have good lead-off hitters. The Sox line-up can contend with the best, given their one-two punch is getting on base. The past two years, they haven't. Edited December 12, 2007 by BobDylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(BobDylan @ Dec 11, 2007 -> 07:53 PM) Considering his career average is .293, it's a risk worth listening to. Look at it this way, we have Cabrera for one year--and at a pretty hefty price in Jon Garland. A second in the order hitter doesn't quite give you full value unless you put a good lead-off hitter in front of him. We saw that with Iguchi and Podsednik. Crede most likely isn't going to be back next season, and if KW is in this "going for it all" mentality, why not pick up Figgins even if you have to overpay? If it doesn't work out, you ship out the Konerko's, Thome's and Cabrera's at the break and probably land a few pieces back that are better than Broadway and Egbert. I mean, are Broadway and Egbert really so good that we have to forfeit a legitimate lead-off hitter? Hey look, a voice of reason that's not blinded by crappy sox prospect arms and the Great Richar. Edited December 12, 2007 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 If we acquired Figgins, I would rather him play at CF than 2B, to keep Richar in the #9 spot in the lineup. That way we don't have to spend $12-15M on a CF such as Fukudome or Rowand, and could use that money to improve other needs such as the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I really don't see why the Angels would give us Figgins for Crede...the injury concerns warrant much more than just ole Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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