iamshack Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Tejada has been dealt. Apparently the Dodgers are waiting to see whether Kuroda is going to sign with them and have put a deal for Bedard on hold. http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/basebal...,0,378258.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 In return for the four-time All-Star, the Orioles will get outfielder Luke Scott, pitchers Matt Albers, Troy Patton and Dennis Sarfate, and third baseman Michael Costanzo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Very, very interesting timing on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 Just want to add I read word of this deal over an hour ago. It seems some "inside" sources of the Orioles I have read are reputable. Therefore, it's probably safe to assume that the Dodgers bailed on taking back Tejada in the deal, or they are waiting on Kuroda before they decide it's worth it to go after Bedard at all. This is bad news. Could mean the Indians become the favorite to grab Bedard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I would say that I am less than impressed by the package they received. 24 year old 3rd baseman hitting .270 in the minors with an OPS around 850, 22 year old pitcher who probably is the most talented player in this package, soon to be 25 year old who put up a 1.60 WHIP and a 5.86 ERA in his rookie season in the NL Central last year, and a pitcher just breaking into the big leagues who'll be 27 around opening day next year, on top of Scott. Seems like the Orioles are just going for sheer numbers and not caring about actual skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Ed Wade is a funny guy he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 12:46 PM) I would say that I am less than impressed by the package they received. 24 year old 3rd baseman hitting .270 in the minors with an OPS around 850, 22 year old pitcher who probably is the most talented player in this package, soon to be 25 year old who put up a 1.60 WHIP and a 5.86 ERA in his rookie season in the NL Central last year, and a pitcher just breaking into the big leagues who'll be 27 around opening day next year, on top of Scott. Seems like the Orioles are just going for sheer numbers and not caring about actual skill. See fathom's post. I think this is a gamble by Houston. High risk, High reward, and the return package takes that risk into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 11:46 AM) I would say that I am less than impressed by the package they received. 24 year old 3rd baseman hitting .270 in the minors with an OPS around 850, 22 year old pitcher who probably is the most talented player in this package, soon to be 25 year old who put up a 1.60 WHIP and a 5.86 ERA in his rookie season in the NL Central last year, and a pitcher just breaking into the big leagues who'll be 27 around opening day next year, on top of Scott. Seems like the Orioles are just going for sheer numbers and not caring about actual skill. Well, having just read the Mitchell Report with other baseball executives, I'm sure the Orioles were more concerned about Miggy's roiding than the Astros. That just seems to me the most obvious reason for this trade. Personally, I don't see why the Astros would have interest regardless, but that's an odd organization down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 05:47 PM) See fathom's post. I think this is a gamble by Houston. High risk, High reward, and the return package takes that risk into account. Yeah, I don't think it's speculating that a lot of people believe Tejada is one of the prime candidates to show up on the Mitchell Report. Maybe Baltimore got rid of him before he lost even more value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 More importantly, does this open up a possiblity of Juan Uribe to the Orioles? I want no return, I just want him gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 11:49 AM) Yeah, I don't think it's speculating that a lot of people believe Tejada is one of the prime candidates to show up on the Mitchell Report. Maybe Baltimore got rid of him before he lost even more value. That makes sense, but Houston got the same Mitchell Report Baltimore did... (unless Baltimore didn't read it and none of the teams have, only Selig and his boys?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 05:49 PM) More importantly, does this open up a possiblity of Juan Uribe to the Orioles? I want no return, I just want him gone. Could be, but knowing them, they'll just sign Eckstein. Since they didn't get a 2nd baseman back in this deal, hopefully it means they won't trade Roberts to the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Tejada has to be on the Mitchell report otherwise the Orioles are just getting a bulk of mediocre players (one pitcher is an above average prospect, everything else is at least a bit meh). They have repeatedly turned down better offers from squads like the Angels (I have no idea what the Angels offered this year, but the O's turned down deals that had 3 young players going (all 3 of which were better than any one player that the Astros are giving up). I don't think this move makes the Astros a contender though and I'm guessing in the O's case they are hoping all of these guys contribute and develop at the major league level (and its probably relatively safe to say that all 5 will play with the Astros at some point in the next year, most of which will play for them this year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 11:50 AM) Could be, but knowing them, they'll just sign Eckstein. Since they didn't get a 2nd baseman back in this deal, hopefully it means they won't trade Roberts to the Cubs. You don't think having Eric Patterson included in a Roberts deal is a possibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 05:52 PM) You don't think having Eric Patterson included in a Roberts deal is a possibility? I'm not so sure how eager Orioles organization is to acquire another Patterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 11:54 AM) I'm not so sure how eager Orioles organization is to acquire another Patterson. I'd have to say considering what they gave up the first time around worked out alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 11:52 AM) You don't think having Eric Patterson included in a Roberts deal is a possibility? And I've read the Orioles would be asking for Ronny Cedeno back in a BRob deal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'd have to think Bedard and Roberts will be on the way out in the next week as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Talk about waiting too long to make a deal... Tejada could have brought a kings ransom last year, or the year before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Speaking of the Patterson name.. is Corey a f/a or is he still signed with the Orioles? I wouldnt mind taking a flyer on him, he could even leadoff for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 12:02 PM) Speaking of the Patterson name.. is Corey a f/a or is he still signed with the Orioles? I wouldnt mind taking a flyer on him, he could even leadoff for us. FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 12:02 PM) Speaking of the Patterson name.. is Corey a f/a or is he still signed with the Orioles? I wouldnt mind taking a flyer on him, he could even leadoff for us. I'd much prefer him in the 9 hole, but he's pretty underrated. He's also a Boras client though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 brian roberts would look so good on the south side. is there any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 12:05 PM) brian roberts would look so good on the south side. is there any chance? Sure. Just have to beat the Cubs or Dodgers offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(iamshack @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 10:07 AM) Sure. Just have to beat the Cubs or Dodgers offer. Are you sure the Dodgers offered on Roberts? Kent just exercised his option and is slated to play 2nd and they have Pierre in CF. I know the Cubs will be after Roberts but besides that the Sox would be the only other team. If they could get Roberts with Richar and a prospect or two (not named Gio) than I think thats a move you make (ink Rowand and you really do have a pretty damn nice looking lineup). The rotation would be shaky, no doubt, but it has two good front of the rotation guys, a major questionmark in Jose, and a couple young pitchers with some upside (maybe not Andrew Miller upside ,but both have major league stuff). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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