Kyyle23 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 08:32 PM) duh, as much as cubs fans want, they cant make crappy trades happen. That package was about equal to Broadway, Richar, and Masset. So you are saying that the Orioles might be interested in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 If true... two things... 1) What a terrible trade by the O's... 2) Could we not match that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 09:36 PM) If true... two things... 1) What a terrible trade by the O's... 2) Could we not match that? Heres a thought. We could have beat that with Gio. Would our team be better if we made that trade instead of swish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 10:27 PM) Heres a thought. We could have beat that with Gio. Would our team be better if we made that trade instead of swish? Gio for Roberts, or Gio and plus some for Roberts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 05:48 PM) Gio for Roberts, or Gio and plus some for Roberts? If it's the Cedeno/Marshall one, Gio alone might well have beaten it. But there appears to be a reason why this deal hasn't happened yet, because that price clearly isn't enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I think Hill is overrated but he is better than Roberts. I also think Pie will be no better than Brian Anderson. Pie has failed as much if not more than Anderson IMHO. Without Hill that rotation would be an utter disaster although in that pathetic division it may still be enough to get eliminated in the first round once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Levine says deal is dead because the O's were actually asking for impact players in return. Of course since the Cubs couldnt grab him he says that "Roberts is not available." Which of course is not true, that package would be easy to match for several teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 12, 2008 -> 05:09 PM) Levine says deal is dead because the O's were actually asking for impact players in return. Of course since the Cubs couldnt grab him he says that "Roberts is not available." Which of course is not true, that package would be easy to match for several teams. The whole idea that Roberts had no value was laughable. As long as he produces on the field, teams don't care about what he does off of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 12, 2008 -> 05:09 PM) Levine says deal is dead because the O's were actually asking for impact players in return. Of course since the Cubs couldnt grab him he says that "Roberts is not available." Which of course is not true, that package would be easy to match for several teams. Supposedly the players the Cubs refused to part with are Tyler Colvin and Felix Pie. If it were me, Rich Hill and Sean Marshall would be considered more valuable than Pie. I dont know much about Colvin, but Hill and Marshall are both pretty decent lefties with MLB experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 10:55 AM) Supposedly the players the Cubs refused to part with are Tyler Colvin and Felix Pie. If it were me, Rich Hill and Sean Marshall would be considered more valuable than Pie. I dont know much about Colvin, but Hill and Marshall are both pretty decent lefties with MLB experience I think Pie's starting to head into "can't miss who did" territory. He just isn't hitting enough to be a starting MLB outfielder. If the Cubs were smart, they'd try to package him for a reliable starter before his value drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 QUOTE(The Critic @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 11:15 AM) I think Pie's starting to head into "can't miss who did" territory. He just isn't hitting enough to be a starting MLB outfielder. If the Cubs were smart, they'd try to package him for a reliable starter before his value drops. I agree, merely looking at the fact that Pie couldnt take the CF job from Jacque Jones last year(or at least create some playing time for himself) speaks volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 So the Cubs are still close to getting Brian Roberts? For the past 3 weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 QUOTE(Brian @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 12:52 PM) So the Cubs are still close to getting Brian Roberts? For the past 3 weeks? Bruce "bombshell" Levine said that the deal is dead because the Orioles want one of Colvin or Pie in the deal as well as Murton, Marshall and Gallagher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 12:55 PM) Bruce "bombshell" Levine said that the deal is dead because the Orioles want one of Colvin or Pie in the deal as well as Murton, Marshall and Gallagher Not surprised. I think I'm closer to getting a date with Mandy Moore than the Cubs trading for Roberts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 QUOTE(Brian @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 12:58 PM) Not surprised. I think I'm closer to getting a date with Mandy Moore than the Cubs trading for Roberts. Dont give up your hopes Brian. Mandy is still single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 So Hendry still likes his spects eh. Even with limited ceiling.. Laughable. Seriously Hendry, Tyler Colvin? The draft pick you actually reached on? Dear lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 04:18 PM) So Hendry still likes his spects eh. Even with limited ceiling.. Laughable. Seriously Hendry, Tyler Colvin? The draft pick you actually reached on? Dear lord. That package was laughable, I still dont see it in Pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I actually think Tyler Colvin is going to be a pretty good Major Leaguer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Are Cub fans still waiting for Angel Guzman to become an ace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosox41 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 12:55 PM) Bruce "bombshell" Levine said that the deal is dead because the Orioles want one of Colvin or Pie in the deal as well as Murton, Marshall and Gallagher Long term this isn't a great trade for the Cubs, but for a team going for it now, I'd seriously have to consider throwing in Pie to get a guy like Roberts. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 QUOTE(Brian @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 08:48 PM) Are Cub fans still waiting for Angel Guzman to become an ace? good, that theyre not getting roberts. they dont need another second baseman anyways and soriano only wants to leadoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 QUOTE(gosox41 @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 10:33 PM) Long term this isn't a great trade for the Cubs, but for a team going for it now, I'd seriously have to consider throwing in Pie to get a guy like Roberts. Bob Who plays CF for the cub if they trade Pie? Fukodome? Resign Patterson? An outfield of Soriano, Fukodome and Ward...... I am really not sure how much better the cubs are this season and the NL has really improved. Any learning curve for Fukodome and they could be in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 You should check out the comments on mlbtraderumors.com under this trade. Some of the cubs fans projections for these crap prospects is unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 (edited) Apparentley it isnt quite dead....seen this on mlbrumors.com TIFWIW Report: Cubs to Acquire Roberts According to ESPN 1000 in Chicago, the Cubs and Orioles have reached a tentative agreement on a trade that would send Brian Roberts to the Cubs for at least three players. It sounds iffy because no players are known but it is believed that they are holding off on announcing it until this weekends Cubs Convention. The Cubs have been known to save announcements on signings and such till the Convention. Last year, it was the signing of Jeff Samardjiza, so it is possible. Also, with the signing of Jon Lieber it would make sense they would trade a pitcher like Sean Marshall or Sean Gallagher. More on this as it unfolds... Edited January 17, 2008 by EvilJester99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 03:10 AM) Apparentley it isnt quite dead....seen this on mlbrumors.com TIFWIW Report: Cubs to Acquire Roberts According to ESPN 1000 in Chicago, the Cubs and Orioles have reached a tentative agreement on a trade that would send Brian Roberts to the Cubs for at least three players. It sounds iffy because no players are known but it is believed that they are holding off on announcing it until this weekends Cubs Convention. The Cubs have been known to save announcements on signings and such till the Convention. Last year, it was the signing of Jeff Samardjiza, so it is possible. Also, with the signing of Jon Lieber it would make sense they would trade a pitcher like Sean Marshall or Sean Gallagher. More on this as it unfolds... Pie or Hill better be in the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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