sircaffey Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 08:15 AM) Willis has been declining for two years now. I could see one year as a fluke/bad luck/injury year, but not two straight. He has declined in every major statistical category since 2005. Then you add the NL to AL factor, and things will get interesting. W-L IP CG H ER BB K ERA WHIP BAA 2005 22-10 236.1 7 213 69 55 170 2.63 1.13 .243 2006 12-12 223.1 4 234 96 83 160 3.87 1.42 .274 2007 10-15 205.1 0 241 118 87 146 5.17 1.60 .294 Obviously he and his agent only felt like he was worth that much, which doesn't seem like a vote of confidence. I don't know about that. If I remember correctly, this deal just buys out Dontrelle's first year of free agency. He'll make $12 mil in the final year of the contract, so he won't be greatly underpaid at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 QUOTE(sircaffey @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 12:35 PM) I don't know about that. If I remember correctly, this deal just buys out Dontrelle's first year of free agency. He'll make $12 mil in the final year of the contract, so he won't be greatly underpaid at that time.I didn't know the contract details at the time, so $12 mil is not as bad as I thought orginally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 09:59 AM) I actually disagree. The way the Sox are set right now, they could certainly be in the bidding for a high priced guy 2 years from now. They've added a bunch of young guys to their roster to fill holes, and in 2 years, Thome and Contreras will have their contracts cleared, along with Cabrera and some amount of inflation. With one or two more young guys coming along in the rotation or maybe in the OF, and some amount of revenue inflation, we'll be more than in a position to go after a big guy 2 years from now...as long as we don't do something horrendously stupid like blowing $18 million a year on a 33 year old CF.I just don't see the Tigers letting him walk to a Division rival. At that point they would probably overpay to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 01:57 PM) I just don't see the Tigers letting him walk to a Division rival. At that point they would probably overpay to keep him. You're right. The Tigers certainly don't want to lose him to us. However, it'll ultimately be up to Cabrera. There's little doubt in my mind that the Tigers will throw huge money at Miguel before he becomes a free agent. If Miguel wants to test the market, then the Sox will be set up to make a very serious push for him. It's all up to Miguel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 05:50 AM) He'll make less than Carlos Silva. That alone is a good value. Not if he pitches worse than Carlos Silva (which he has been as of late). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 03:57 PM) I just don't see the Tigers letting him walk to a Division rival. At that point they would probably overpay to keep him. Well the rivalry thing is only one part of it in my mind. The fact that they gave up most of their farm system for him means they would be stupid not to beat any offer out there. The Tigers can't give up what they did for 2 years of a player. It makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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