The Critic Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Jan 29, 2008 -> 05:15 PM) Well, I've been practicing on it for the past 2 hours and it just ain't working. "Fittin'a...............no.................. finnahhh...............no................... finnay................dammit.............. finner.................maybe in Boston.............." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I would like nothing more than to choke the next person that I hear use the term "Flash Freeze" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 09:28 AM) I would like nothing more than to choke the next person that I hear use the term "Flash Freeze" God, I hope that it's Billy Mays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Jan 29, 2008 -> 11:09 PM) Does anyone really use the soxtalk "rating system" built into the message board functions? apparently someone thinks I'm 1 out of 5 stars. I think you're being kind... momma always said less is more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 08:45 AM) God, I hope that it's Billy Mays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Jan 29, 2008 -> 11:09 PM) Does anyone really use the soxtalk "rating system" built into the message board functions? apparently someone thinks I'm 1 out of 5 stars. I think you're being kind... Congrats you are now at 2 stars. Someone plays with it, somehow I have 4 stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 12:06 PM) Congrats you are now at 2 stars. Someone plays with it, somehow I have 4 stars. thanks. I've also had 129 profile views. dang. *blushing* I never knew I was so well liked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 12:06 PM) Congrats you are now at 2 stars. Someone plays with it, somehow I have 4 stars. I play with it as often as I can. . . I wonder how many stars that gives me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mplssoxfan Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 11:54 AM) I play with it as often as I can. . . I wonder how many stars that gives me? *rimshot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 11:36 AM) thanks. I've also had 129 profile views. dang. *blushing* I never knew I was so well liked! Do the words 'morbid curiousity' come to mind? Edited January 30, 2008 by YASNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 11:54 AM) I play with it as often as I can. . . I wonder how many stars that gives me? looks like 5 stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 29, 2008 -> 04:52 PM) I take it if we ever went on a road trip to Cincy again, you won't want to listen to the stylings of Wutang Clan on my iPod? Bummer. Probably about as much as he wants cigar smoke blown in his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 01:25 PM) Do the words 'morbid curiousity' come to mind? speaking of which: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Jan 29, 2008 -> 05:53 PM) What is the point of "finna" though? Heck, "gonna" has the exact same number of letters and they are damn near the same word. It's stuff like that I find really weird. Is it just an attempt to stand out? It doesn't even roll off the tongue in an easy way. It's a clumsy word. Or is this all code? You know, spy talk for the 'hood. "Finna pink elephant, mocko doola unda the hefty wha's i' bootay". From a production standpoint---they are MUCH easier to produce. It is a result of co-articulation. The spelling, I imagine, came AFTER the change in production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Soxy @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 01:12 PM) From a production standpoint---they are MUCH easier to produce. It is a result of co-articulation. The spelling, I imagine, came AFTER the change in production. Soxy you mentioned earlier that languages are dynamic and meant to change.Do we just naturally "dumb down" words and expressions?Looking back to Shakespearian times the english language was obviously much more difficult to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(shipps @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 02:55 PM) Soxy you mentioned earlier that languages are dynamic and meant to change.Do we just naturally "dumb down" words and expressions?Looking back to Shakespearian times the english language was obviously much more difficult to understand. Shakespearean English is more difficult for you to understand--just like Middle English was more difficult for the lay people in the 1600s to understand, only because it is unfamiliar. Structurally it is not more complex than modern English. And I would argue that there are no "simple" or "primitive" languages (although other would disagree). Some linguists, would of course, agree with you that the language is dumbed down and was most "pure" 400 years ago. However, I take the approach that language is an active part of a culture and reflects changes within that culture. There's an interesting book (a good read even for people not in the field) that brushes on some of these topics. Other times, ease of articulation will influence speech. In the previous example "going to" the "ng" sound is produced in the back of the mouth on the palate. The following sound /t/ is produced right behind the teeth, it is difficult to correctly produce each phone in those words--so the further back sound /ng/ is assimilated and produced with the place of articulation of the /t/ (right behind the teeth). This isn't (at least in my opinion) a dumbing down of language--perhaps it is a lazy form of speech, but it is a perfectly reasonable (and predictable part of speech). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Soxy @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 03:05 PM) Shakespearean English is more difficult for you to understand--just like Middle English was more difficult for the lay people in the 1600s to understand, only because it is unfamiliar. Structurally it is not more complex than modern English. And I would argue that there are no "simple" or "primitive" languages (although other would disagree). Some linguists, would of course, agree with you that the language is dumbed down and was most "pure" 400 years ago. However, I take the approach that language is an active part of a culture and reflects changes within that culture. There's an interesting book (a good read even for people not in the field) that brushes on some of these topics. Other times, ease of articulation will influence speech. In the previous example "going to" the "ng" sound is produced in the back of the mouth on the palate. The following sound /t/ is produced right behind the teeth, it is difficult to correctly produce each phone in those words--so the further back sound /ng/ is assimilated and produced with the place of articulation of the /t/ (right behind the teeth). This isn't (at least in my opinion) a dumbing down of language--perhaps it is a lazy form of speech, but it is a perfectly reasonable (and predictable part of speech). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I kid of course. I just love that cat's expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Shut-up. You love my nerdy babble. Anyway, that kid asked! What was I supposed to let him do? Swim in a sea of ignorance when there was a cunning linguist right here to answer his questions? No, sir, that would not do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Soxy @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 02:11 PM) Shut-up. You love my nerdy babble. Anyway, that kid asked! What was I supposed to let him do? Swim in a sea of ignorance when there was a cunning linguist right here to answer his questions? No, sir, that would not do. Thanx for clarifying.I wish I was a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 12:27 PM) Probably about as much as he wants cigar smoke blown in his face. or a piece of ham on his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Soxy @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 02:11 PM) Shut-up. You love my nerdy babble. Anyway, that kid asked! What was I supposed to let him do? Swim in a sea of ignorance when there was a cunning linguist right here to answer his questions? No, sir, that would not do. In the linguistics profession, just how often does the phrase "cunning linguist" get thrown around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 02:29 PM) In the linguistics profession, just how often does the phrase "cunning linguist" get thrown around? I don't know, but I think it probably belonged better in the big boobs thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 03:29 PM) In the linguistics profession, just how often does the phrase "cunning linguist" get thrown around? Honestly, I only use that phrase among friends. I have a feeling my adviser wouldn't find it nearly as hilarious as I do. . .I'm pretty cool for a linguist. Sad, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 QUOTE(Soxy @ Jan 30, 2008 -> 02:36 PM) Honestly, I only use that phrase among friends. I have a feeling my adviser wouldn't find it nearly as hilarious as I do. . .I'm pretty cool for a linguist. Sad, huh? gee, then why did you use it here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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