sox4lifeinPA Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 any MBA-ers present? I have a few questions: What to look for in a program? besides: Name Recognition Commute Time to complete $$ Is there something else I should be looking at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I got my MBA in '04, after having worked in industry for a number of years. What you look for in an MBA program is mostly the same as any other grad school program - schedule, money, reputation of school, name recognition, school funding levels, program details and your career. But in addition, take a look at three things specific to MBA. One, look at the faculty, and see that at least some of them have significant industry background - if its mostly academics doing the teaching, that's probably not good. You want a balance, and I'd say, more towards people from business. Second thing, look at any info the school has on business alignment - see if they do any programs, internships, work shares, etc., with companies, and who they are. Finally, many MBA programs have major business figures involved not as everyday professors, but in smaller capacities - see who they are. If you want more info, PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Knowing you, find one where they use lots of pictures and speak slowly using small words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 03:29 PM) Knowing you, find one where they use lots of pictures and speak slowly using small words oh, so like MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 07:37 PM) any MBA-ers present? I have a few questions: What to look for in a program? besides: Name Recognition Commute Time to complete $$ Is there something else I should be looking at? I just finished mine last spring. I'm a Certified Pain in the Ass with an MBA and an MA. See where it's gotten me? It's gotten me an admin job at soxtalk.com. Name recognition shouldn't be important. Industry, hands on experiences should be. But with that said, name recognition actually is somewhat important. I liked my MBA program because it was VERY heavy with professors with industry experience. You could take it all online or at night, whatever you prefer. The last class was what they call a capstone and essentially it's a consulting project geared toward your emphasis. $$ - sometimes you can get your place of employment to pay for it - look for academic assistance, although the bank you work at isn't goint to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 what if you're just looking to add it to your resume and not actually apply anything you learn? You know, just to make you name standout a little bit more. Does the school really matter (ie, University of Phoenix) Also, did you guy have to submit a resume when applying? If so, what did you put as your objective? Did you use the objective for your current job, desired job, or something related to the business school. What exactly are the classes like and how are they graded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 03:41 PM) what if you're just looking to add it to your resume and not actually apply anything you learn? You know, just to make you name standout a little bit more. Does the school really matter (ie, University of Phoenix) It matters a lot - just like for undergrad, but maybe even more so. That doesn't mean you have to go to Kellogg or Harvard, but what school you go to makes a giant difference in the program. Then there is the name recognition aspect... whether it should or not, the name of the school, especially for MBAs, will make a difference. QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 03:41 PM) Also, did you guy have to submit a resume when applying? If so, what did you put as your objective? Did you use the objective for your current job, desired job, or something related to the business school. Most higher end MBA programs prefer to take people that are not direct out of undergrad - there is usually a requirement for some work experience first. And yes, at least in my case, a resume had to go with the application. Personally, I never ever put an "objective" or "goal" on a resume. I think its silly. But not everyone else shares that view. QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 03:41 PM) What exactly are the classes like and how are they graded? Some MBA programs don't even give grades. Others do, but not always in the standard ways you'd think of (tests, papers, etc.). A lot of MBA programs like peer grading a lot, since its supposed to be a business-like atmosphere. So really, it depends on the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Cool. Your Alma Mater has a pretty nice program, but I figure I'll work another couple of years before going back and do it when I hold a position that is less demanding on contribution and focuses more on supervision (ie I can do my study work in my office while working as a supervisor.) I bought a GMAT book for some review, and the test doesn't seem bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 04:58 PM) Cool. Your Alma Mater has a pretty nice program, but I figure I'll work another couple of years before going back and do it when I hold a position that is less demanding on contribution and focuses more on supervision (ie I can do my study work in my office while working as a supervisor.) I bought a GMAT book for some review, and the test doesn't seem bad at all. Iowa State? I actually got my B.A. there, not my MBA. But I have heard good things about ISU's b-school. If I recall though, the best MBA programs in Des Moines is Drake. But that was way back when - I don't know if that's still true. Iowa or ISU may have a Des Moines MBA program nowadays (as opposed to Ames or IC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Name recognition is definitely important depending how competitive a salary you are looking for. The offer a grad would get between say a program ranked 30 or so and a top echelon school is at least 25%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 10:25 PM) It matters a lot - just like for undergrad, but maybe even more so. That doesn't mean you have to go to Kellogg or Harvard, but what school you go to makes a giant difference in the program. Then there is the name recognition aspect... whether it should or not, the name of the school, especially for MBAs, will make a difference. Most higher end MBA programs prefer to take people that are not direct out of undergrad - there is usually a requirement for some work experience first. And yes, at least in my case, a resume had to go with the application. Personally, I never ever put an "objective" or "goal" on a resume. I think its silly. But not everyone else shares that view.Some MBA programs don't even give grades. Others do, but not always in the standard ways you'd think of (tests, papers, etc.). A lot of MBA programs like peer grading a lot, since its supposed to be a business-like atmosphere. So really, it depends on the program. I do (agree, I think "objective" or "goal" as a title on a resume is not the best). I have a "career profile" and within that, I state what I'm looking for. Sort of. We should compare resumes sometime... in fact, it might be a cool thread... to give people some pointers. Hmmm. Should we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 This is what I had for my first job out of school and my second job 6 months later. Objective To obtain a full-time mechanical engineering position with a world leader in the manufacturing industry Work history (list previous two jobs and tasks) Education (U of I) (JJC) Project Experience (Senior design project with a couple bullet points) (Reliability Engineering with a bullet point) (Mechanical Design II with a bullet point) (Introduction to Manufacturing with a couple of bullet points) Skills (list software that I'm familiar with) I figure now that I'm mid-career, I'll delete all the project stuff from school and fill them in with work projects. Not sure about the objective. I don't think it should jump straight to education (or should I even put that on there?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 If you're going to make your objective that generic leave it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 08:43 PM) I do (agree, I think "objective" or "goal" as a title on a resume is not the best). I have a "career profile" and within that, I state what I'm looking for. Sort of. We should compare resumes sometime... in fact, it might be a cool thread... to give people some pointers. Hmmm. Should we? I have to admit, I'm not sure I'm comfortable doing that in the public forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 08:57 PM) This is what I had for my first job out of school and my second job 6 months later. Objective To obtain a full-time mechanical engineering position with a world leader in the manufacturing industry Work history (list previous two jobs and tasks) Education (U of I) (JJC) Project Experience (Senior design project with a couple bullet points) (Reliability Engineering with a bullet point) (Mechanical Design II with a bullet point) (Introduction to Manufacturing with a couple of bullet points) Skills (list software that I'm familiar with) I figure now that I'm mid-career, I'll delete all the project stuff from school and fill them in with work projects. Not sure about the objective. I don't think it should jump straight to education (or should I even put that on there?) Once you've been out of school a few years, unless this is a CV for academia, education falls below work experience in order (just as you have it there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 17, 2008 -> 04:41 PM) what if you're just looking to add it to your resume and not actually apply anything you learn? You know, just to make you name standout a little bit more. Does the school really matter (ie, University of Phoenix) Also, did you guy have to submit a resume when applying? If so, what did you put as your objective? Did you use the objective for your current job, desired job, or something related to the business school. What exactly are the classes like and how are they graded? my MBA is to learn and to solidify my resume. I'd love to go to Wharton (U of Penn) but the $120k it costs and the fact that I'm not looking to run a fortune 500 company don't appeal too much. I"m leaning towards a dual program that gives me a MBA/MDiv... Non-profit and Urban Economic Development appeal to me a lot. Part time and online classes available for the 4 programs I'm looking at. When I'm done, I'll have 12 years of banking (5 years of management) and an MBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 18, 2008 -> 04:05 AM) I have to admit, I'm not sure I'm comfortable doing that in the public forum. Oh I agree, I would have it severely edited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowandrules83 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 On a somewhat related note, does anyone here know where I can find statistics for the average salaries, with a MBA or Master's in Accounting, from different schools? I'm not quite sure where to look on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 http://www.answermba.com/MBA_Career/MBA_Salary.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I'm finishing up my undergrad, I've done most of my classes while living at home, so it hasn't been the real crazy college experience, just a big focus on the work, so I was looking around at some things that would be really interesting. I'm Italian so something in Italy or around there would be really cool, I saw St. John's has a Rome campus where they do a MBA program. I'm going to research that and consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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