KipWellsFan Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 26, 2008 -> 08:24 PM) Oh yea. You have to understand that the media is creaming their pants for Hillary. After Obama "HAD A GIGANTIC WIN" and Hillary won, she got the "comeback kid" label Billy had. They got their wish, and you have to understand that the media has already WAAAAAAAAAY factored in an Obama win in SC purely because of the race factor, which is sad. Hillary might win but it won't be because of some media conspiracy to annoint her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 26, 2008 -> 09:24 PM) Oh yea. You have to understand that the media is creaming their pants for Hillary. After Obama "HAD A GIGANTIC WIN" and Hillary won, she got the "comeback kid" label Billy had. They got their wish, and you have to understand that the media has already WAAAAAAAAAY factored in an Obama win in SC purely because of the race factor, which is sad. That's not the reaction I heard on the news tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Jan 26, 2008 -> 09:16 PM) That's not the reaction I heard on the news tonight. It was all over the press two days ago that Billy had already conceded SC to Obama. I think that's enough to continue my Hillarity kills Obama theory. As I have said over and over, I hope that it's not the case, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 27, 2008 Author Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 26, 2008 -> 07:05 PM) Bill gets asked a question not remotely relating to race, or even South Carolina. Bill's immediate response..."Jesse Jackson won South Carolina twice". Are you freaking kidding me? My God! What a world class a$$hole. seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 26, 2008 -> 09:39 PM) <!--quoteo(post=1565585:date=Jan 26, 2008 -> 07:05 PM:name=Balta1701)-->QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 26, 2008 -> 07:05 PM) <!--quotec--> Bill gets asked a question not remotely relating to race, or even South Carolina. Bill's immediate response..."Jesse Jackson won South Carolina twice". Are you freaking kidding me? My God! What a world class a$$hole. seriously. And as I said, they knew this was going to happen, and the spin was in place long before today. South Carolina means NOTHING, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 26, 2008 -> 10:43 PM) South Carolina means NOTHING, IMO. They are getting an unbelievable amount of donations tonight. More than after Iowa and New Hampshire. The campaign will get a huge boost with a landslide victory like this. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2...spike_onli.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 26, 2008 -> 10:34 PM) It was all over the press two days ago that Billy had already conceded SC to Obama. I think that's enough to continue my Hillarity kills Obama theory. As I have said over and over, I hope that it's not the case, but I doubt it. Rasmussen might be able to burst your bubble. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_con...l_tracking_poll As South Carolina voters go to the poll, the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination has gotten much tighter. It’s now Hillary Clinton 36%, Barack Obama 33% and John Edwards 18% (see recent daily numbers). Obama is expected to win in South Carolina and Dick Morris believes that Bill Clinton’s temper is starting to hurt Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Michael Barone takes a look at the pivotal role South Carolina has played this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I have to give Obama this much. The man can give a speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Well let's hope this at least gives Obama some momentum heading into Super Tuesday. A lot can happen b/w now and then, and with Bill starting to become a bit of liability, I wouldn't count Obama out just yet, although Hilary is still probably the favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 It's wide open and the truth is, the Democrats are much more likely to head into the convention without a nominee at this point than the GOP is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 26, 2008 -> 10:43 PM) And as I said, they knew this was going to happen, and the spin was in place long before today. South Carolina means NOTHING, IMO. They knew they were going to lose SC, but they didn't think it would be an asskicking of biblical proportions. They aren't going to be able to spin this one. I wouldn't be surprised to see Barack taking leads in a whole bunch of super Tuesday states by Monday's polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I will concede this much... every single time Hillarity has attacked Obama, it has totally backfired. When it happened in Iowa it was a blip. This time, it was hardcore, and it REALLY snowballed. And then, in NH, when she "showed her softer side" by crying, she gets accolades from the world for "being a human being". I fully expect another "softer side" moment damn soon. Watch, it will happen. She needs sympathy, not hate, and they know now how to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Well hell, a 30 point victory in SC? I'm pretty darn happy. I was going to be happy with 10 or 12 points. And the racial split may be a red herring, as far as being an indicator for how that will occur on Super Tuesday. I personally hope the Clintons go for that strategy - try to marginalize Obama as "the black candidate". Because I am pretty sure that won't work well outside the south. I mean, in case they forgot, Obama won lilly-white Iowa, came close in almost-as-white NH, and basically took a draw in Nevada with its mostly white and hispanic population. If they try that road, I think the reaction will be against Clinton, not for her. It should be interesting in the coming week to see what polls look like in CA, NJ and other large Super Tuesday states (other than NY and IL, which I think are forgone conclusions). See if this ass-whoopin' does anything to boost Obama. Obama has a ton of money coming in, and this is the primary date (Feb 5) where money matters most. I still think that this thing is going to Denver, where Edwards will crown the nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 If Edwards can crown the nominee, it happens before the convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 10:43 AM) If Edwards can crown the nominee, it happens before the convention. You think so? Assuming that the race is still to be had (no nominee with significantly more than 50% of delegates) before Denver, what is the motivation to do that earlier? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 11:32 AM) You think so? Assuming that the race is still to be had (no nominee with significantly more than 50% of delegates) before Denver, what is the motivation to do that earlier? Just curious. To keep his name from being trashed by the media as he holds out (the greedy SOB's demanding the VP slot and neither side wants to give it to him!), to allow for some measure of party unity in the months coming up to the convention, and to generally give the Dems a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 01:37 PM) To keep his name from being trashed by the media as he holds out (the greedy SOB's demanding the VP slot and neither side wants to give it to him!), to allow for some measure of party unity in the months coming up to the convention, and to generally give the Dems a shot. All good points (though I think that if the Dems are a near-lock for the Prez, unless its against McCain), but, if Edwards is indeed motivated by trying to juice the best post possible out of this... then his motivation will be to hold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 11:39 AM) All good points (though I think that if the Dems are a near-lock for the Prez, unless its against McCain), but, if Edwards is indeed motivated by trying to juice the best post possible out of this... then his motivation will be to hold out. He's also young enough to still have a shot to be involved in politics for 25 more years if that's what he really wants. He doesn't want to wind up being the guy who gets blamed for a Dem loss in 08 because he wouldn't let his delegates go for 6 months. That's an awful lot of fundraising and advertising time that would just be wasted, and he knows that. He'd strike a deal with one of them pretty quick, come March or April probably, if it becomes clear that he's the decider. After the Swift Vets got up on the air while Kerry was unable to respond because of financing limits, hopefully people have learned their lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 26, 2008 -> 10:43 PM) And as I said, they knew this was going to happen, and the spin was in place long before today. South Carolina means NOTHING, IMO. The CLINTONS are spinning it, but nobody it buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 01:53 PM) The CLINTONS are spinning it, but nobody it buying it. Super Duper Orgasmic Galatic Pooper Extremely Important Tuesday will tell us if that's true or not. I hope you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 02:32 PM) You think so? Assuming that the race is still to be had (no nominee with significantly more than 50% of delegates) before Denver, what is the motivation to do that earlier? Just curious. The candidates will do anything to line up enough delegates to have that deal made before Denver. Nobody wants a multi ballot nomination process. Nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 02:23 PM) Super Duper Orgasmic Galatic Pooper Extremely Important Tuesday will tell us if that's true or not. I hope you're right. And SDOGPEIT was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 02:25 PM) The candidates will do anything to line up enough delegates to have that deal made before Denver. Nobody wants a multi ballot nomination process. Nobody. Exactly. The whole idea is to go into your respective conventions like you own the world, and build momentum for the general election. No one will let it be splintered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 02:29 PM) And SDOGPEIT was born. Exactomundo! Now, I get to create the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 03:30 PM) Exactly. The whole idea is to go into your respective conventions like you own the world, and build momentum for the general election. No one will let it be splintered. I wouldn't say noone will let that happen. It is entirely possible. This is, after all, the Democratic Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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