Reddy Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 11:46 PM) Chuck Todds breakdown (NM and CA not included)... Obama - 659 Clinton - 623 If Hillary wins BIG in CA.... Obama - 841 Clinton - 837 So, OBAMA wins tonight! wow. that's just absurd. i mean honestly... if you just step back and look at those numbers that is just plain insanity. talk about a divided party... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 ya know what, this is gonna help McCain as well - while the republicans will have their nominee and will be "unified" the dems will be squabbling late into the summer...... if you couple that with a Huck VP... not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 10:35 PM) Let me guess, Chris Matthews? Hillary started off with about a 35-40 point lead in polling there a couple weeks ago. Those endorsements cut it in half. She had a huge built in lead in any media market hit by NYC. No - it was the local affiliate here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 On a far more down to earth and real level, this is the headline on CNN.com right now "Death toll rises to 16 after tornadoes roar through parts of Arkansas, Tennessee and Kentucky, authorities say." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 OK, of the states reporting 60% plus, I read the current delegate count for the Dems being: Obama: 692 Clinton: 595 That's the delegate count WITHOUT California and New Mexico. Clinton will do well in CA, but, can she make up 100 points between those 2 states? By the way, early numbers in, Edwards may actually grab some delegates in NM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 looking at the county breakdowns Edwards has a LOT of support in CA. Strange. Makes you wonder what would've happened had he stayed in.... *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 which Dem states do NOT have the 15% rule? cuz i feel like i heard somewhere that some don't have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 11:48 PM) wow. that's just absurd. i mean honestly... if you just step back and look at those numbers that is just plain insanity. talk about a divided party... Yeah, but look at the sheer numbers that are turning out. Anyone voting DEM right now will likely vote DEM come the actual election. I think we will have a more unified party than most and anyone backing Obama or Hillary will vote for the other one when all is said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 11:59 PM) Yeah, but look at the sheer numbers that are turning out. Anyone voting DEM right now will likely vote DEM come the actual election. I think we will have a more unified party than most and anyone backing Obama or Hillary will vote for the other one when all is said and done. Not necessarily. Head-to-head polls suggest that McCain is currently looking better than Clinton in that matchup. Indepedents like McCain, and Clinton will galvanize the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 11:59 PM) Yeah, but look at the sheer numbers that are turning out. Anyone voting DEM right now will likely vote DEM come the actual election. I think we will have a more unified party than most and anyone backing Obama or Hillary will vote for the other one when all is said and done. yeah i know - i just think we need to keep from getting overly optimistic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 12:52 AM) On a far more down to earth and real level, this is the headline on CNN.com right now "Death toll rises to 16 after tornadoes roar through parts of Arkansas, Tennessee and Kentucky, authorities say." Voted for Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 12:08 AM) Voted for Hillary. really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 12:09 AM) really? Note that he was replying to the post about the storms. I think he was making a bad joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 12:28 AM) Note that he was replying to the post about the storms. I think he was making a bad joke. my really wasn't ACTUALLY a question it was more of a "are you kidding me?" just thought it was a tad tasteless. but in any case... interesting night - and i dont think it REALLY changes a damn thing in the end. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 From California exit polling... Was Gender of Candidate Clinton Edwards Obama Important to You Yes (23%) 71% 4% 24% No (76%) 47% 6% 44% Almost of 1/4 of the democratic voters in California thought gender was imporant, and those voters broke 3 to 1 for Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 So why aren't the women of California going to be ripped for being sexist when I can't hear 5 minutes of Obama talk without race being brought up? Hypocritical, but not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Ronnie Woo Woo, even when watching Obama speak I have to see this douche! They pan the room, and there he is in the corner cheering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 82% counted in CA-LI-FORNIA, Clinton at 52%, Obama at 41%. New Mexico is neck and neck, Obama by 1% at 49% to 48% at 85% counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 CNN has Hillary up by about 90 delegates. This comes almost entirely from Superdelegate pledges. Obama is neck-and-neck with her on votes won. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries...ts/scorecard/#D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 11:53 PM) looking at the county breakdowns Edwards has a LOT of support in CA. Strange. Makes you wonder what would've happened had he stayed in.... *sigh* He would have picked up a handful of delegates, maybe get to 30 total, and then drop out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 According to RealPolitics, Obama has a slight lead at this point in pledged delegates - 696-688. But that is with only PART of California in there (about half), with a 50 delegate lead for Clinton. If things continue as is, she will probably just sneak past Obama in pledged delegates. Looking at the next few rounds, Obama has a pretty big advantage. Plus he doesn't have money issues, and he's perceived in the press as having "won" last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 05:40 AM) He would have picked up a handful of delegates, maybe get to 30 total, and then drop out? lol cept he would've had a lot of support in MO, TN, OK, AK, AL, GA as well. obviously he wouldn't have gotten a lot. but in any case it's pointless. oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 08:07 AM) lol cept he would've had a lot of support in MO, TN, OK, AK, AL, GA as well. obviously he wouldn't have gotten a lot. but in any case it's pointless. oh well. It would have given him more of a "kingmaker" role if this stays close through the next several rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Edwards staying in would have handed Clinton the nomination, just like having a three person race gave the nod to McCain for the GOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 12:52 AM) So why aren't the women of California going to be ripped for being sexist when I can't hear 5 minutes of Obama talk without race being brought up? Hypocritical, but not surprising. I was thinking that yesterday morning while I was driving to work. Blacks vote for Obama and he is the "black candidate" and clearly cant win whites. Clinton wins women an the press is "well, she's a woman. she should win women" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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