NorthSideSox72 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I'll make one prediction. The nightmare of a 9ui11ani Presidency will soon be no more. Thankfully, there is still some intelligence left in America, and every state where he has campaigned, his numbers have fallen off a cliff every time he's been seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 This is must win for McCain. he has to make up the delegate deficit and keep his name up front for Super Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 05:39 PM) This is must win for McCain. he has to make up the delegate deficit and keep his name up front for Super Tuesday. This is more of a must win for Romney. He is, like Obama, facing an uphill climb in national polls, and this is his last chance to claim that whole momentum thing and put himself firmly ensconced in the front runner role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 07:42 PM) This is more of a must win for Romney. He is, like Obama, facing an uphill climb in national polls, and this is his last chance to claim that whole momentum thing and put himself firmly ensconced in the front runner role. Yeah, I tend to agree, I think Romney needs this more than McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 07:42 PM) This is more of a must win for Romney. He is, like Obama, facing an uphill climb in national polls, and this is his last chance to claim that whole momentum thing and put himself firmly ensconced in the front runner role. Romney is actually the leader in delegates right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 06:38 PM) Romney is actually the leader in delegates right now. While this is true...it doesn't mean much right now and you know that. Not when McCain has a strong lead in the national polls and we're a week from 22 states voting, essentially a national primary. His delegate lead is nothing if he can't even up the polling in the Feb 5 states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 07:37 PM) Thankfully, there is still some intelligence left in America that still doesn't explain H.Clinton voters. seriously, how stupid do you have to be to buy into all her bs and vote for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 08:40 PM) While this is true...it doesn't mean much right now and you know that. Not when McCain has a strong lead in the national polls and we're a week from 22 states voting, essentially a national primary. His delegate lead is nothing if he can't even up the polling in the Feb 5 states. Republicans are the fall in line party. If Romney wins Florida, all of those polls for ST change quickly. If McCain wins ST becomes a route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 06:59 PM) Republicans are the fall in line party. If Romney wins Florida, all of those polls for ST change quickly. If McCain wins ST becomes a route. In other words, FL is more important for Romney, because if he doesn't win it the race is over, while if he does win it, he has a shot to make up that 10 point deficit, but McCain is still not finished because of the lead he already has. My point exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 08:38 PM) Romney is actually the leader in delegates right now. Obama is the Dem leader in pledged/committed delegates, just like Romney is for the GOP. Is Obama the front-runner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 09:03 PM) In other words, FL is more important for Romney, because if he doesn't win it the race is over, while if he does win it, he has a shot to make up that 10 point deficit, but McCain is still not finished because of the lead he already has. My point exactly But McCain is still behind. Its more important for the guy who is losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Ok so who's the favorite in the polls to win in Florida b/w Romney and McCain? I was reading a little yesterday about Romney campaigning about his record with the economy compared to McCain's "Commander in Chief" stance. He needed to be more honest after the debacle in Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 07:16 PM) Ok so who's the favorite in the polls to win in Florida b/w Romney and McCain? Like 8 Florida polls came out today. It comes out to something like Romney 31, McCain 29. Basically right now it's a tossup according to the polling data. Turnout could easily decide things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 (edited) QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 09:16 PM) I was reading a little yesterday about Romney campaigning about his record with the economy compared to McCain's "Commander in Chief" stance. Basically Romney is saying that McCain is liberal. Touting the New Yorks times support of McCain and his work in the Senate with Dems on immigration and campaign finance reform. Romney points out that McCain voted against Bush tax cuts, therefore Romney can surmise that McCain likes high taxes. McCain is calling Romney a flip-flopping, tax-raising, liberal. Oh, and McCain says Romney wanted to surrender in Iraq. Edited January 29, 2008 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 SurveyUSA's last 2 days of results: "We can reveal that in the final totals it is McCain 31.6%, Romney 31.2%, but we will caution that those numbers are not materially different than the Romney 31.9%, McCain 31.3% numbers that SurveyUSA reported this morning. The movement is too small to be judged significant, and the best interpretation of the data and the trendlines is that the contest could go either way." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 No predictions yet? We should have made some sort of pool out of predicting the primaries. Could have been fun. Oh well. My picks for FL... McCain: 33% Romney: 32% Huckabee: 19% Giuliani: 11% Paul: 5% Huckabee surprises a bit with a 3rd place finish. Giuliani fails, and drops out immediately after. Romney and McCain in a very tight race - could go either way. I am guessing McCain by a hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 29, 2008 -> 02:47 PM) No predictions yet? We should have made some sort of pool out of predicting the primaries. Could have been fun. Oh well. My picks for FL... McCain: 33% Romney: 32% Huckabee: 19% Giuliani: 11% Paul: 5% Huckabee surprises a bit with a 3rd place finish. Giuliani fails, and drops out immediately after. Romney and McCain in a very tight race - could go either way. I am guessing McCain by a hair. "by a hair"... nice pun I think McCain will tap into his 178 years of life experience and snake out a win. I think he'll put up the best resistence against the Dem candidate anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 The rumored first round of exit polls: McCain 34.3 percent, Romney 32.6 percent, Giuliani 15.3 percent, Huckabee 12 percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 So...Huckabee's out... Do you think he'd be a good VP for McCain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 ABC Exit polling shows a huge conservative turnout, and rumors from the same poll are showing a 6 point edge in absentee voting for Romney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 But... since the Dem race is irrelevant, I'd imagine there are a lot of independents voting in the GOP race too. That plays to McCain. Or is Florida a closed primary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 First 10% in from Florida for the GOP... McCain: 34% Romney: 30% Giuliani: 18% Huckabee: 13% Paul: 3% Thompson: 2% So there may have been a large conservative turnout, but, they are apparently split between Huckabee and Romney. For the Dems, which have no delegates at stake, and only Hillary campaigned (against the rules)... Clinton 52%, Obama 30%, Edwards 16%, Kucinich 1%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) BTW, there is an obvious potential for a bias in these results, as the Panhandle is a different time zone and is still voting as I type this. McCain's current lead is about 13,000 votes. If that doesn't go down rapidly, then it's Clinton/McCain. Edited January 30, 2008 by Balta1701 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Clinton's lead is disappearing, and I think she wins by only 10 points over Obama in a state where he didn't even campaign. That's not really a big help for her. McCain's lead looks strong, but it kinda rides on what the panhandle is gonna say. Exit polls have this looking pretty even, but with a slight edge for McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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