Brian Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 6, 2010 -> 09:18 PM) Desmond didn't die. He's special. And it seems he is being sent there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Well in the regular time line Charles told Desmond that he needed his special abilities. This is the second time that Desmond has gone successfully to the alternate universe and returned (failure to press button where he goes to the alternate and then returns naked, at the time there was no context for Desmond being in an alternative world.) To me that is clear that Desmond is going to need to go to the alternate universe and do something, perhaps find jacob, who knows. To me it seems that Charles is saying to Desmond if he doesnt do it, then the man in black is going to win, and all of this universe will be destroyed. At the same time in alternate universe, people are starting to be brought together. Desmond now has a mission to first collect the names and then find the people on board the flight. Another thing is that Elouise seems to know something by stating that Desmond should not be following that path and her implication that some how Charlie seeing the other side had disrupted the natural order of that universe. Thus I believe that the alternate characters or going to become critical in saving the regular time line. Not really a spoiler, but its my theory and well it predicts the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Nice stuff badger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 6, 2010 -> 09:19 PM) And that would be? reeeeally? dude the fact that it's NOT an epilogue, not a lot of things people theorized about, but something tangible that widmore and eloise know about. something viscerally connected to the "real world". Two different times wherein Penny is once again Desmond's constant, and he can travel between. ps - i told a friend last week that i thought constants would come back to play a role. totally right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 7, 2010 -> 03:28 AM) reeeeally? dude the fact that it's NOT an epilogue, not a lot of things people theorized about, but something tangible that widmore and eloise know about. something viscerally connected to the "real world". Two different times wherein Penny is once again Desmond's constant, and he can travel between. ps - i told a friend last week that i thought constants would come back to play a role. totally right. I wasn't being sarcastic with my question, FWIW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Reading theories on lospedia forums, someone brings up a good point about near death experiences triggering memories from the other timelines and points out that last season in "This Place is Death", when Charlotte is losing it, he rambles things out loud. Maybe something from her alt bleeding through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Episode of the season (so far) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 6, 2010 -> 09:37 PM) Reading theories on lospedia forums, someone brings up a good point about near death experiences triggering memories from the other timelines and points out that last season in "This Place is Death", when Charlotte is losing it, he rambles things out loud. Maybe something from her alt bleeding through. hasn't that happened more than just with charlotte? juliet off the top of my head, but i think there's more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I honestly have no idea what to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 6, 2010 -> 09:55 PM) hasn't that happened more than just with charlotte? juliet off the top of my head, but i think there's more... Good point. You mean with her "It worked" line to Sawyer in the season premiere? Sepinwall fast tonight... http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/04/lost...t-desmonds.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 6, 2010 -> 10:00 PM) Good point. You mean with her "It worked" line to Sawyer in the season premiere? Sepinwall fast tonight... http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/04/lost...t-desmonds.html Definitely means Juliet probably saw the opposite timeline when she died, or like someone said about dead people going to the ALT maybe Juliet was going there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 6, 2010 -> 10:00 PM) Good point. You mean with her "It worked" line to Sawyer in the season premiere? Sepinwall fast tonight... http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/04/lost...t-desmonds.html That was great, better then most of his entries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 6, 2010 -> 09:27 PM) This is the second time that Desmond has gone successfully to the alternate universe and returned (failure to press button where he goes to the alternate and then returns naked, at the time there was no context for Desmond being in an alternative world.) Wait, he didnt enter the alternate reality after the Swan implosion. His mind jumped back in time to 1996. Am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Screencrave's episode review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 All I can say was that is how you get show moving along. Desmond's episodes are always the highest rated. That was epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 A great Lost episode is normally one where you're completely engaged for the hour and still have no idea what you just watched. That's exactly how I felt about this one. I couldn't wait to get back from commercial break, and after 60 minutes, I'm still not quite sure what we just watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) Athome, You seem to be right. That he did indeed flash to the past. I just looked back at the episode information and there is a lot of hidden stuff in there (meaning Id have to rewatch it to really come to a correct conclusion.) It appears that there were similar scenes involving Widmore and Hawking. Im not 100% sure if the flashback to the past was the actual past, or if it was an alternative past. Without rewatching the episode it wont be easy. (The reason I say it may be an alternative past, is that the way the website is written, http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Desmond_Hu..._travel_to_1996. "Ms. Hawking, the jewelry store clerk, revealed that Desmond was not supposed to buy the ring, that he was supposed to have second thoughts and abandon Penny. She further claimed to know that Desmond's future would involve going to the Island and pushing the button in the Swan." From the way its written, it would seem that Desmond being told that information was the first time he had heard it. As he had already been on the island, this would mean that the 1996 he had gone to was not exactly the same. Furthermore the entire soccer scene and him being "wrong about the day", would correlate with the alternate time line that flight 815 was on a different date etc. Obviously at the time the episode aired there was no way to know any of this information. Edited April 7, 2010 by Soxbadger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 7, 2010 -> 10:45 AM) Athome, You seem to be right. That he did indeed flash to the past. I just looked back at the episode information and there is a lot of hidden stuff in there (meaning Id have to rewatch it to really come to a correct conclusion.) It appears that there were similar scenes involving Widmore and Hawking. Im not 100% sure if the flashback to the past was the actual past, or if it was an alternative past. Without rewatching the episode it wont be easy. (The reason I say it may be an alternative past, is that the way the website is written, http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Desmond_Hu..._travel_to_1996. "Ms. Hawking, the jewelry store clerk, revealed that Desmond was not supposed to buy the ring, that he was supposed to have second thoughts and abandon Penny. She further claimed to know that Desmond's future would involve going to the Island and pushing the button in the Swan." From the way its written, it would seem that Desmond being told that information was the first time he had heard it. As he had already been on the island, this would mean that the 1996 he had gone to was not exactly the same. Furthermore the entire soccer scene and him being "wrong about the day", would correlate with the alternate time line that flight 815 was on a different date etc. Obviously at the time the episode aired there was no way to know any of this information. They've come out and said that was a prop error. The flight dates are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Well thats lame. I dont read spoiler sites, so I had no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I got to thinking too that maybe the flashes we ASSUMED where is past were indeed a alternate timeline. But that would have to be a separate alternate timeline from the one we are seeing this season. Oh my head hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I've been watching Lost from the beginning and I'm in to Season 2 know. Something I noticed before last night is that just about every Desmond episode involves a lot of flashbacks and a lot of playing the same scenes we've already seen. I found the later annoying the first time around but I'm wondering if that was intentional now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 On a side note: Between LOST and FlashForward, I have found Sonya Walger (Penny/Olivia) to be a GORGEOUS woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 7, 2010 -> 03:50 PM) On a side note: Between LOST and FlashForward, I have found Sonya Walger (Penny/Olivia) to be a GORGEOUS woman. In that case, you might wanna look her up in Tell Me You Love Me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Apr 7, 2010 -> 02:59 PM) In that case, you might wanna look her up in Tell Me You Love Me. Some of those scenes were hot. Softcore porn basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 7, 2010 -> 02:50 PM) On a side note: Between LOST and FlashForward, I have found Sonya Walger (Penny/Olivia) to be a GORGEOUS woman. ohhhhh... me likey! (NSFW) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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