juddling Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 BOYNTON BEACH, Fla. -- The State Attorney's Office will decide whether to charge two teens who admit they robbed a 9-year-old Girl Scout selling cookies outside of a Boynton Beach supermarket. "I thought that it was a really mean thing to do, and I was sad after," Girl Scout Gracie Smith told WPBF News 25. Authorities said that a 17-year-old girl in a hot-pink sweatshirt approached Smith outside of a Winn-Dixie supermarket at Hypoluxo and Jog roads in Boynton Beach Wednesday evening and asked the girl what her favorite cookies were. Police told WPBF that, while Smith was telling the teen about her favorite Cinna-Spins, the teen snatched an envelope containing about $167 off of Smith's table, hopped into another teen's car and drove away. Smith told WPBF that she turned to her mother in tears, saying, "Mommy! That girl took all my money!" Authorities said they caught up with the 17-year-old girl Thursday and pulled her out of class at Park Vista High School, where she allegedly confessed to the crime, WPBF reported. Investigators said the girl's female accomplice, another a Park Vista student, also confessed. The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office said that the case has been handed over to the State Attorney's Office to determine if charges will be filed against the teens. Smith's mother, Charlene Rubenstrunk, told WPBF that the girls returned to the store Thursday to taunt her daughter. "They are within 10 feet of the same kid they just robbed last night and there is nothing anybody can do about it. I find that offensive," Rubenstrunk said. The girls, whose names are not being released because they are minors, told WPBF that they were not remorseful for the crime, and that they did it because they "needed money." "We went through all that effort to get it, we got all these charges and we had to give the money back. I'm kind of pissed," one of the girls told WPBF. The other girl told WPBF that she was upset because police found them. "I'm not sorry, I'm just pissed that I got caught," the girl said. Money collected from the cookie sales were supposed to go toward Smith's sleep-over trip with Troop 664 to the Miami Seaquarium. Police were unable to recover the stolen money, but a father of one of the teens accused in the crime paid the money back to Smith's mother, WPBF reported. Authorities said the teens were not charged because they did not use force to steal the money, nor did they take the money from the Girl Scout’s hands. The State Attorney's Office will decide if the teens will be charged. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm glad the parent of one of the girls paid the money back but i can't believe these girls attitudes. I guess nothing should surprise me anymore but i hope that parent takes it out of their hides though at this point i don't think it would do any good. Still trying to figure out why the girls weren't charged. They grabbed something that knowingly isn't theirs and run away. Last time i checked....that's stealing. Force or no force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 So someone could steal my wallet if I had it sitting on a table I'm near and if they didn't force it from me or my hands they wouldn't be charged. Thats pretty freaking pathetic to me. Those girls should have at least spent a night in some sort of cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 12:40 AM) Those girls should have at least spent a night in some sort of cell. Minors, so that would never happen. Even if they are charged, it's off their record within the year. Hopefully the parents make their senior year miserable (no car, no prom, etc). That's the only punishment they'll understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 2, 2008 -> 10:47 PM) Minors, so that would never happen. Even if they are charged, it's off their record within the year. Hopefully the parents make their senior year miserable (no car, no prom, etc). That's the only punishment they'll understand. True...but isn't there some sort of juvy cell or something for kids? Either way, you are right, it is going to come down to the parents to give em hell and they clearly need some sort of lashing considering they are showing zero remorse what-so-ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 12:40 AM) So someone could steal my wallet if I had it sitting on a table I'm near and if they didn't force it from me or my hands they wouldn't be charged. Thats pretty freaking pathetic to me. Those girls should have at least spent a night in some sort of cell. Since when are those the elements of theft? Seems a bit odd to me... The following is a basic definition of theft: A criminal act in which property belonging to another is taken without that person's consent. I'd have to review my criminal law notes, but it seems like the standard used by the police in this case is a little odd... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 So lets say I had my car running outside (while I was in the house to grab something) and some schmoe walked up and got in the car (nowhere did they have to force anything) and just drove off. Would that not be theft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 01:33 AM) So lets say I had my car running outside (while I was in the house to grab something) and some schmoe walked up and got in the car (nowhere did they have to force anything) and just drove off. Would that not be theft? Yeah, that is theft. I don't understand where these guys are coming from with their definition or elements of theft. I've never really heard this "use of force" requirement before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I think its still illegal but its just a different charge. Theft, larceny, burglary are all different. Im pretty sure its a form of theft. Like how retail theft, shoplifting, doesnt involve any force either. The impression I got is that the girls more than likely wont get in any trouble because theyre minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 12:53 AM) True...but isn't there some sort of juvy cell or something for kids? Either way, you are right, it is going to come down to the parents to give em hell and they clearly need some sort of lashing considering they are showing zero remorse what-so-ever. Sure is. And it's like big people jail where you get 16 chances, 34 years of probation, and 91,856,00 hours of community service before being sent there for non-violent crimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 01:33 AM) So lets say I had my car running outside (while I was in the house to grab something) and some schmoe walked up and got in the car (nowhere did they have to force anything) and just drove off. Would that not be theft? You know something that is really messed up. In that exact situation above you are responsible for any damage done by the vehicle after it is stolen and your insurance company will not cover it. If someone disagrees please do so as I have been lead ot beleive this is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 03:05 PM) You know something that is really messed up. In that exact situation above you are responsible for any damage done by the vehicle after it is stolen and your insurance company will not cover it. If someone disagrees please do so as I have been lead ot beleive this is true. Then you might have an insurance carrier problem. Nationwide and Allstate specifically state in their policies that if your vehicle is stolen, and you have a police report to that fact, you are not responsible for any damages or crimes commited. I have no idea of the others, but I can't imagine it wouldn't be the same. Just like when your credit card is stolen and you are not responsible for the charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddling Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 06:47 AM) Minors, so that would never happen. Even if they are charged, it's off their record within the year. Hopefully the parents make their senior year miserable (no car, no prom, etc). That's the only punishment they'll understand. What's really sad is that if these girls already have that kind of attitude, then i doubt they were punished much when they were younger so i wouldn't expect the parents to crack down now...and even if they did i doubt it would do much good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 (edited) QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 03:05 PM) You know something that is really messed up. In that exact situation above you are responsible for any damage done by the vehicle after it is stolen and your insurance company will not cover it. If someone disagrees please do so as I have been lead ot beleive this is true. Depends on your coverage. I've known a couple people who have had their cars stolen, down here it's a big problem. One did not have full coverage and lost everything. When they found his truck, stripped, he got nothing. The other had full coverage and they covered the damage, which was mostly missing pieces that had gotten chopped. Glass, seats, and rims. YMMV, check your agent. BTW, his aftermarket sound system was not covered. I just remembered that. Edited February 4, 2008 by Texsox additional info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 08:27 PM) Then you might have an insurance carrier problem. Nationwide and Allstate specifically state in their policies that if your vehicle is stolen, and you have a police report to that fact, you are not responsible for any damages or crimes commited. I have no idea of the others, but I can't imagine it wouldn't be the same. Just like when your credit card is stolen and you are not responsible for the charges. The problem is when you leave your keys in the ignition. I believe a stolen car if broken into is very different from leaving your car running and having it stolen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Feb 4, 2008 -> 12:14 PM) The problem is when you leave your keys in the ignition. I believe a stolen car if broken into is very different from leaving your car running and having it stolen. They cover you if you are drunk driving, etc. I've never seen an exception for being stupid and careless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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