Hillary Clinton - Why the hate?

[BigSqwert]

I've watched the guy talk a lot. He's just not a person I want to see elected from a purely selfish standpoint.

Fair enough.

[Texsox]

So let me get this straight. You would consider not voting for Obama because of some random guy on a White Sox message board? Great rationale I must say.

When someone seems to be an Obama expert and all they have is a $500 unpaid bill and the use of "change", it creates an image of the candidate that is not favorable in my eyes.

 

Using straight talk express? Sounds great to me. Converts. Same thing if they started speaking out against a border fence, guest worker program, etc. I guess the difference is if you view those as simply advertising gimmicks or positions. If you ant change, and every candidate has now agreed to that position, you win, right? Or is the slogan change just a tool to get your candidate elected and you don't want the other candidates to use that tool?

 

But if you are just posting and not trying to convert anyone to vote for Obama, then my feedback isn't necessary.

[BigSqwert]

If you ant change, and every candidate has now agreed to that position, you win, right? Or is the slogan change just a tool to get your candidate elected and you don't want the other candidates to use that tool?

Obama has been using the same theme since his Illinois Senate days. Rallying people from the ground up has been a core principle for him for many years. When Hillary all of a sudden uses the same theme when it was never even part of her vocabulary then I wonder how devoted she is for this change.

[BigSqwert]

Excerpts from Obama's presidential announcement from February of 2007:

But I've been there long enough to know that the ways of Washington must change.

The genius of our founders is that they designed a system of government that can be changed.

And we should take heart, because we've changed this country before.

For that is our unyielding faith — that in the face of impossible odds, people who love their country can change it.

 

And although government will play a crucial role in bringing about the changes that we need, more money and programs alone will not get us to where we need to go.

This campaign has to be about reclaiming the meaning of citizenship, restoring our sense of common purpose, and realizing that few obstacles can withstand the power of millions of voices calling for change.

 

By ourselves, this change will not happen.

 

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I would do the same thing for Senator Clinton if I could but she decided not to announce her candidacy to the American people since she was the inevitable nominee.

 

 

[southsider2k5]

Fair enough.

 

I'll even go as far as to say that I watch the candidates I don't like more than the ones I do. I am more interested in what others are saying, and why they are saying it. I think Obama could do a good job, but I am not going to like most of what he does.

[Texsox]

Excerpts from Obama's presidential announcement from February of 2007:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I would do the same thing for Senator Clinton if I could but she decided not to announce her candidacy to the American people since she was the inevitable nominee.

 

Obama to Hillary "I said change first in THIS CAMPAIGN, so you can't use it." so ok dude, whatever. If the best thing going for your candidate is he said change first, great. But in every campaign in the past 200 years, the candidates have talked about change. If that truly is Obama's theme, he's the lightest weight candidate out there. Thomas Jefferson used change as his campaign theme in 1796 (Washington ran unopposed in 1792) against former Vice President John Adams.

Obama "Gore invented the Internet and I invented change!"

 

[Texsox]

[Controlled Chaos]

Anyone see Hillary The Movie yet?