Texsox Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 01:59 PM) So religion is too sacred to make fun of? Not at all, but you were not making fun, you were insulting, demeaning, and ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 12:55 PM) Knowing that the KKK and other wack-job groups use that book to justify their extreme hatred, I don't think its very ignorant. I think that book is dangerous. And this coming from someone who went to catholic grade school, high school, and a jesuit university and got an A in an Islam class. I think my years of experience in life and school give me plenty of background to make such a statement. And I'm a big fan of Seventeen. Good stuff. That's akin to saying all White Sox fans are coked out whack jobs because Ligue attacked an umpire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(Soxy @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 01:35 PM) I was asking for your personal definition. If you can't define a word, maybe you shouldn't claim to understand it. Because, clearly, you have no idea what respect is. (oo) What you want (oo) Baby, I got (oo) What you need (oo) Do you know I got it? (oo) All I'm askin' (oo) Is for a little respect when you come home (just a little bit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 12:55 PM) Knowing that the KKK and other wack-job groups use that book to justify their extreme hatred, I don't think its very ignorant. I think that book is dangerous. And this coming from someone who went to catholic grade school, high school, and a jesuit university and got an A in an Islam class. I think my years of experience in life and school give me plenty of background to make such a statement. And I'm a big fan of Seventeen. Good stuff. Take away the Bible and the KKK would just find something else to justify their extreme hatred. They would just move on to Darwinism and say that Darwin proved that whites were more evolved than blacks or something equally ridiculous. Rock, Heavy Metal, Rap and many other types of music have all been blamed for some pretty bad things too, would we be better off without music as well? Soxtalk has probably caused some people to justify their extreme hatred for the cubs, cub fans and Jay Marrioti, Maybe it should be shut down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 02:18 PM) That's akin to saying all White Sox fans are coked out whack jobs because Ligue attacked an umpire. I never said all people who believe in God are wack-jobs. The people I mentioned are wack-jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 01:28 PM) You aren't random strangers...you are words on a screen. And I am in one of my moods today and you guys are all over it, so I am having a hard time stopping trying to piss everyone off. Somewhere, Andy Kauffman is smiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 For you, no difference at all. It would be difficult for some to understand why In God We Trust is on our currency and not In Seventeen We Trust. It would probably be difficult for some to understand why we formally used a Bible to swear in witnesses in court, instead of an issue of Seventeen Magazine. Perhaps centuries from now, Seventeen will have the same impact on history that the Bible has. I doubt it, but for those that can't see the difference, they probably would believe it. 'In God we Trust" on our currency, swearing on a Bible, and "one nation under God" in the Pledge of Allegience are mistakes based on the core of our constitution yet people like you use it as an example how we should incorporated God into our daily lives and Governments. I'll have you know I finally started taking a black sharpie to "God" on the back of each of my dollar bills and I don't respect "God Bless America" like I do with the National Anthem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 12:56 PM) 'In God we Trust" on our currency, swearing on a Bible, and "one nation under God" in the Pledge of Allegience are mistakes based on the core of our constitution yet people like you use it as an example how we should incorporated God into our daily lives and Governments. I'll have you know I finally started taking a black sharpie to "God" on the back of each of my dollar bills and I don't respect "God Bless America" like I do with the National Anthem. sweet, defacing US currency. The Feds are on their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 11:56 AM) 'In God we Trust" on our currency, swearing on a Bible, and "one nation under God" in the Pledge of Allegience are mistakes based on the core of our constitution yet people like you use it as an example how we should incorporated God into our daily lives and Governments. I'll have you know I finally started taking a black sharpie to "God" on the back of each of my dollar bills and I don't respect "God Bless America" like I do with the National Anthem. No, I was using it as an example to show that the Bible is different then Seventeen Magazine. All that work? And you comment on religious people? Keep marking them bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) sweet, defacing US currency. The Feds are on their way. wheresgeorge.com Would you have a problem if they released an "In Allah we Trust" version for our Muslim citizens? http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071...Controversy.htm At the height of the Cold War, when the U.S. faced the threat of atheistic communism, the phrase made its way onto paper currency, appearing first on Oct. 1, 1957. The move came one year after a joint resolution passed by the 84th Congress declared "In God We Trust" the national motto of the United States. Wasn't that around the same time they added "Under God" to the POA? Edited February 13, 2008 by santo=dorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 12:33 PM) wheresgeorge.com Would you have a problem if they released an "In Allah we Trust" version for our Muslim citizens? Defacement of Currency Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined not more than $100 or imprisoned not more than six months, or both. Defacement of currency in such a way that it is made unfit for circulation comes under the jurisdiction of the United States Secret Service. Their mailing address is: United States Secret Service 950 H Street, NW Washington, DC 20223. The United States Secret Service web address is http://www.secretservice.gov. Since you can continue to use the bill, what you, and wheresgeorge.com is doing is legal. Keep buying them sharpies and crossing that out. Do you use different colors or stick to a nice black? Nice hobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Since you can continue to use the bill, what you, and wheresgeorge.com is doing is legal. Keep buying them sharpies and crossing that out. Do you use different colors or stick to a nice black? Nice hobby Go back and read my original post as I've indicated which color sharpie I use. I'm not paying for the sharpies, I'm not the only one doing it, and it takes me all of 5 seconds to do. That's a considerable less amount of time than having to wake up early and spend an hour at church every Sunday in one of my previous "hobbies." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 12:43 PM) Go back and read my original post as I've indicated which color sharpie I use. I'm not paying for the sharpies, I'm not the only one doing it, and it takes me all of 5 seconds to do. That's a considerable less amount of time than having to wake up early and spend an hour at church every Sunday in one of my previous "hobbies." Are you taking a file to the coins also? What a giant waste of time, but if it makes you feel better. 5 seconds, guess you don't have many bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Are you taking a file to the coins also? What a giant waste of time, but if it makes you feel better. 5 seconds, guess you don't have many bills. The Coins will have to go to the grinder, but that would be a time waster as few people really look at their coins as much as their bills. People like to show of the 9/11 WTC attack on a $20 bill and "Tits of Erica" than do a silly coin trick. ..and since I do alot of my payments by plastic and debit cards, I have the same $20 bills sitting in my wallet for up to weeks at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 12:52 PM) The Coins will have to go to the grinder, but that would be a time waster as few people really look at their coins as much as their bills. People like to show of the 9/11 WTC attack on a $20 bill and "Tits of Erica" than do a silly coin trick. ..and since I do alot of my payments by plastic and debit cards, I have the same $20 bills sitting in my wallet for up to weeks at a time. Get yourself a Dremel tool. this is important. So marking those bills do not have too much effect. Maybe you could try an additional approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Get yourself a Dremel tool. this is important. So marking those bills do not have too much effect. Maybe you could try an additional approach. You mean be like this guy? http://quasisemi.com/wp/about/in-god-we-trust/ (Interesting read) I imagine the ACLU has already been involved with this as in that other link they mentioned how they were fighting the state of Indiana for putting "in God we trust" on the license plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 12:33 PM) Wasn't that around the same time they added "Under God" to the POA? The pledge wasn't written until the 20th century, during the 10's or 20's IIRC. "Under God" was added during the "Red Scare" to help seperate Americans from the Godless commies. This country has a motto - E Pluribus Unum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 01:58 PM) You mean be like this guy? http://quasisemi.com/wp/about/in-god-we-trust/ (Interesting read) I imagine the ACLU has already been involved with this as in that other link they mentioned how they were fighting the state of Indiana for putting "in God we trust" on the license plates. an uneducated read too. Zzzzzzzzzz Jefferson wrote the "seperation of church and state" in a private letter, not a public document, to a church (Moravians, I believe) to assure them that no ONE church would be the state church, as was the case in most foreign countries. (the reason why people came to America). Whatever your "God" is...I know you trust in him. Whether your God is the one true God, Money, or as it seems in your case, your ego, We all trust in something or some concept larger than ourselves. If you want to impress your clearly awesome friends with your clearly awesome dollar defacing abilities, more power to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 If you want to impress your clearly awesome friends with your clearly awesome dollar defacing abilities, more power to you. That's not the motivation behind. Why are you so stubborn and arrogant when it comes to this kind of stuff? I realize a comment was made earlier comparing the Bible to Seventeen magazine, but I don't think your snarky comments comments would be appreciated by the heavenly father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 BTW, I started underlining God, let the battle of the bills begin I've never heard of that before, and a few friends I told it to thought it was the funniest thing they ever heard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 12:09 PM) That's not the motivation behind. Why are you so stubborn and arrogant when it comes to this kind of stuff? I realize a comment was made earlier comparing the Bible to Seventeen magazine, but I don't think your snarky comments comments would be appreciated by the heavenly father. Probably not, but Grace exceeds my snarky remarks. So it's covered. I just think taking a black marker to a bill and celebrating this with friends is a childish endevour at best. Unless you truly believe that someone is going to look at a bill and go...."wait...this black mark on this bill has really got me thinking...maybe we as a nation really DON'T trust in God....maybe I don't believe in God at all....yeah, that's right, I'm an atheist now because of this black mark over "In God We Trust"....phew, thanks random leftist currency graffiti guy...the blinders have been removed because of your bold move!" please. It's an exercise to show your "superior intellect" and "prove a point". and since I manage a bank branch, I think I'm going to enact a rule today that everyone at the branch has to sit and underline "God" on all the bills. I win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Just witness where we go and what we say when tragedy strikes. We are a nation of faith. It may not be all the same and we may worship different higher powers, but we do have faith. That transcends some markings on a dollar bill, actually it transcends those words even when we can read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 12:55 PM) Just witness where we go and what we say when tragedy strikes. We are a nation of faith. It may not be all the same and we may worship different higher powers, but we do have faith. That transcends some markings on a dollar bill, actually it transcends those words even when we can read it. Right, "Trust" or faith rather, is why we as a nation oppose waterboarding and cruel actions that other countries do not. It's why we have the Superbowl and NASCAR. ok, I couldn't think of anything else... just kidding about NASCAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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