gbuk Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 No one in the Big Ten is worthwhile...the overrated chant applies for IU, Wisconsin, and MSU. With that said, all the overrated chant does is undermine your team's accomplishment, and I absolutely cannot stand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Feb 16, 2008 -> 11:12 PM) I didn't hear anyone chanting for Sampson. They were chating DJ White at the end. There were at least two rather loud, drawn out Sampson chants. Unlike those around me, I remained silent. This was also the first (and only game this season) game I got to be behind the basket. Edited February 17, 2008 by farmteam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(sircaffey @ Feb 16, 2008 -> 11:00 PM) You don't think MSU is overrated at #9? I sure as hell do. They've been playing pretty average of late. Morgan's disappeared. The Big Tem overall is overrated. There isnt a clear cut top notch team in the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 05:11 PM) The Big Tem overall is overrated. There isnt a clear cut top notch team in the bunch. i don't think the big ten is overrated at all. most rankings have it as the sixth or seventh best league in the country. pomeroy has it sixth behind the acc, pac-10, big 12, big east, and sec. that looks about right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(thedoctor @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 11:21 AM) i don't think the big ten is overrated at all. most rankings have it as the sixth or seventh best league in the country. pomeroy has it sixth behind the acc, pac-10, big 12, big east, and sec. that looks about right to me. The team rankings are, I wasnt speaking about the conference. I do not believe there is a top 10 team in the big ten this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 05:30 PM) The team rankings are, I wasnt speaking about the conference. I do not believe there is a top 10 team in the big ten this season. got ya. sorry for the misinterpretation. i agree with you there, although i would not be surprised to see a b10 team make a run in the tournament. one usually does, regardless of the league's strength or lack thereof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 ebanks says he thinks sampson lied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Does anyone believe that a postseason ban is forthcoming? If it was, would this happen next year or this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 There is a rumor going around that Scott Skiles will be the Hoosiers next coach. I for one thing that would be a tremendous hire. I don't know how he'd recruit, but he's one hell of a coach and given the college environment, where most players would stay 2-3 years as opposed to sticking around the full 4, he's less likely to ever have guys get tired of his message. On one hand, I'd be happy to see Skiles coaching somewhere, on the other, as someone that despises the Hoosiers, I would hate to see them get such a good coach and not get punished for hiring a crook like Sampson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 12:11 PM) There is a rumor going around that Scott Skiles will be the Hoosiers next coach. I for one thing that would be a tremendous hire. I don't know how he'd recruit, but he's one hell of a coach and given the college environment, where most players would stay 2-3 years as opposed to sticking around the full 4, he's less likely to ever have guys get tired of his message. On one hand, I'd be happy to see Skiles coaching somewhere, on the other, as someone that despises the Hoosiers, I would hate to see them get such a good coach and not get punished for hiring a crook like Sampson. Skiles' no-nonsense, his way or the highway style would be very Knight-esq. It'd be a very interesting hire to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) Skiles would never be able to recruit, and I don't see what college connections he has outside of going to a Big 10 school. Not sure why IU would make that hire, they could get much better choices. Edited February 17, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 I've only seen that rumor in a Minnesota newspaper on SI's truth and rumors. I don't see it happening, nor do I think thaqt it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 01:07 PM) Skiles would never be able to recruit, and I don't see what college connections he has outside of going to a Big 10 school. Not sure why IU would make that hire, they could get much better choices. Ok, why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbuk Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 01:07 PM) Skiles would never be able to recruit, and I don't see what college connections he has outside of going to a Big 10 school. Not sure why IU would make that hire, they could get much better choices. Dude are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Michigan beats Ohio State! Been a few years since I could type that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 12:00 PM) Does anyone believe that a postseason ban is forthcoming? If it was, would this happen next year or this year? There will be no post-season ban this year. IU has stated it will not self-impose such a ban unless there was an isuse with an ineligible player, which is not the case. Next year will depend on the NCAA. I doubt that will be the case, but it will depend on how things go down with Sampson. IU has to have a formal response to the NCAA in May, which would mean they will go to a hearing in June (assuming the NCAA has their stuff together and can review IU's response quickly enough). This means the unltimate decision of any penalties will not be known until late next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Right now there are no rumors about who will the next IU head coach, there is only speculation. Let's be clear on that. Just because a name gets tossed out doesn't mean it has ANY legs at all. OR, it could me that person may be considered. I still expect Dan Dakich to be the interim coach the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 11:11 AM) The Big Tem overall is overrated. There isnt a clear cut top notch team in the bunch. But isn't this the kind of year the Big Ten usually sneaks up on everybody and gets two teams into the Elite Eight and one getting to the Final Four? Seems to me and only going through memory, that often when the Big Ten seems down, they find a way to get a team or two fairly deep into the tourney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 12:07 PM) Right now there are no rumors about who will the next IU head coach, there is only speculation. Let's be clear on that. Just because a name gets tossed out doesn't mean it has ANY legs at all. OR, it could me that person may be considered. I still expect Dan Dakich to be the interim coach the rest of the year. Hell, It's probably too soon, but I'll just throw it out there....Dane Fife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 12:09 PM) But isn't this the kind of year the Big Ten usually sneaks up on everybody and gets two teams into the Elite Eight and one getting to the Final Four? Seems to me and only going through memory, that often when the Big Ten seems down, they find a way to get a team or two fairly deep into the tourney. My memory says the same thing. The Big ten may not have an absolutely stacked team, but they tend to have a lot of pretty good teams that beat up on each other throughout the big ten season...and when you take 4-5 pretty good teams who have spent their whole season getting experience playing hard games against pretty good teams, you've got a good shot to push 1 or 2 deep into the Tourney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 03:19 PM) Hell, It's probably too soon, but I'll just throw it out there....Dane Fife. My friends and I have mentioned him; with how young he is, I think he follows whoever the next coach is--assuming that the next coach is here for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I still like the idea of Brad Brownell, but I admit I am a bit biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 12:25 PM) My friends and I have mentioned him; with how young he is, I think he follows whoever the next coach is--assuming that the next coach is here for a while. I thought of that too...but here's the counterpoint. Let's say the Hoosiers wind up looking at a postseason play suspension for Sampson's dealings. What type of coach is going to want to be put in that situation? You're certainly not going to pilfer any big name coach from another program if they are losing a scholarship or two or are put out of the tourney for a couple years. If that's the situation, someone like Fife, someone who honestly shouldn't be at the big time yet but who could be there a few years down the road, might be the ideal choice, and he'd be the kind of pick who might soothe some of the alums who are fairly angry at how this has turned out and how the U picked someone as a coach that it turned out they couldn't trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 02:37 PM) I thought of that too...but here's the counterpoint. Let's say the Hoosiers wind up looking at a postseason play suspension for Sampson's dealings. What type of coach is going to want to be put in that situation? You're certainly not going to pilfer any big name coach from another program if they are losing a scholarship or two or are put out of the tourney for a couple years. If that's the situation, someone like Fife, someone who honestly shouldn't be at the big time yet but who could be there a few years down the road, might be the ideal choice, and he'd be the kind of pick who might soothe some of the alums who are fairly angry at how this has turned out and how the U picked someone as a coach that it turned out they couldn't trust. Problem with that is a new coach will be in place long before the final outcome is determined. That said, the likelihood of a post season ban, especially for multiple years is minimal at best. If they handle things the right way with Sampson, I am willing to be that IU will reply with revised self-imposed sanctions and the NCAA will rubber stamp them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I can't remember who said it on Gameday, but I don't think there will be an IU post-season ban because this has nothing to do with the players. In fact, I don't even know if this should garner a scholarship loss, although I know it probably will. This should be a coaching ban on Sampson and whatever assistants are caught. The entire coaching staff should be replaced, the AD should be fired, and Sampson shouldn't be allowed to coach for however long the NCAA determines. As much as I dislike Indiana, the players shouldn't be punished, the coaches should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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