RedPinStripes Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Think this is accurate for next year pending what KW does? Buehrle someone KW calls a top pitcher Garland Ritchie WrightRauch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Originally posted by RedPinStripesThink this is accurate for next year pending what KW does? Buehrle someone KW calls a top pitcher Garland Ritchie WrightRauch. Yeah. LOL. It will be interesting to see what this Organization thinks is a top pitcher. Will they try to tell us that an Ismail Valdez is a top pitcher or will JR pony up some cash and surprise all of us with a TOP PITCHER like he surprised us with the signing of, at the time, Albert Belle. I'm gonna lean toward an Ismail Valdez type that this Organization will attempt to pawn off on us fans as the next coming of Cy Young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Buehrle someone KW calls a top pitcher Garland Ritchie WrightRauch. Great post. I say it's Mark B (what a talent; i love this guy) Parque (just kidding) I shall continue Mark B Garland (sure hope he continues on what he's done late in this season) New veteran who is not ultra expensive (byrd, bere , stottlemyre (yuK on todd) Wright Rauch I hope ritchie is gone forever or at least out of the starting five. We sure could use another lefty so we could go lefty, righty, righty, lefty, righty. Should be interesting. It'd be awesome if Rauch, Garland, Wright and Mark B developed and were awesome for years to come. They certainly have potential. What we should do is go out and hire the best pitching coach alive. Seriously. These guys all are ultra young and have talent. Who would'nt want to work with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPinStripes Posted September 24, 2002 Author Share Posted September 24, 2002 Originally posted by CubKilla Originally posted by RedPinStripesThink this is accurate for next year pending what KW does? Buehrle someone KW calls a top pitcher Garland Ritchie WrightRauch. Yeah. LOL. It will be interesting to see what this Organization thinks is a top pitcher. Will they try to tell us that an Ismail Valdez is a top pitcher or will JR pony up some cash and surprise all of us with a TOP PITCHER like he surprised us with the signing of, at the time, Albert Belle. I'm gonna lean toward an Ismail Valdez type that this Organization will attempt to pawn off on us fans as the next coming of Cy Young. Nothing different. Sox fans just being teased again:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Well, if we get a new pitcher then I say Buerhle New Guy Garland Wright Rauch If not, then I think our rotation will be just like last years Buerhle Garland Wright Ritchie Rauch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 it scares the hell out of me to see ritchies name on that list.. as much as i was a big backer of his ...the thought of him coming back next year turns my stomache..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 I like the fact that he's made some changes to his delivery which I feel will help him out a ton. He hung way too many pitches and it was because of the way he threw the ball. I would always comment on it and it appears as if the Sox finally did something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjav829 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Originally posted by hotsoxchick1it scares the hell out of me to see ritchies name on that list.. as much as i was a big backer of his ...the thought of him coming back next year turns my stomache..... I was always a backer of Ritchie but I really do think he will pitch much better next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 94 mph fastball, good slider, good curve, solid change. You can't possibly pitch as bad as he did with all that kind of stuff. This year he gave up on two of his pitches, and hung damn near every slider he threw because he was always having a different release point and that tended to cause him to roll so many pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 I would prefer a 2003 rotation without any mention of Ritchie myself. However, I think KW and Ritchie feel they have something to prove for next season. Ritchie wants to prove to Sox fans that he is better than what we saw this season. KW wants to shove it up our ass for all the bashing we've done to him because of this trade. One thing about Ritchie that I respected is that he knew he sucked this year and he admitted it. We had other KW acquisitions that seemed to blame everyone but themselves. Todd didn't. Hats off to him for that at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 The only bad trades I can think of were the Clayton one and the Ritchie one. In the case of the Ritchie one it may turn out that it was a Schueler deal or at least a heavily pushed Schueler deal. Of course KW still deserves the fall for that cause he is the gm and invitably the final say is with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjav829 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Originally posted by CubKillaI would prefer a 2003 rotation without any mention of Ritchie myself. However, I think KW and Ritchie feel they have something to prove for next season. Ritchie wants to prove to Sox fans that he is better than what we saw this season. KW wants to shove it up our ass for all the bashing we've done to him because of this trade. One thing about Ritchie that I respected is that he knew he sucked this year and he admitted it. We had other KW acquisitions that seemed to blame everyone but themselves. Todd didn't. Hats off to him for that at least. That's one thing I like about Ritchie. Through this entire year he was always a stand up guy and never made excuses. Maybe to a fault almost because he tried to pitch through pain. I have confidence in him that if he is completely healthy next year, he will do just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 He definately wasn't a Royce Clayton. He worked his butt of and never complained. It ended up being a fault, but I have a lot of respect for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 jav what im most worried about with ritchie is his confidence level.... after having such high hopes this season and having it turn into s***...i hope he can come back and kill off the mound...but i have my doubts... i love the guy personally.. he was the coolest when i met him and his wife at soxfest.. i had such high hopes for him....one other thing i wonder about is how did we tear up his shoulder so fast??? or was it already on the verge of failing and we didnt know it before the trade??? if not then we definately have to take a good long look at our pitching program.. so many arms have gone down in the past couple of seasons it should send a worry sign to someone dont you think?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 I think we simply need to figure that its part of the game. Pitchers get hurt and it tends to happen during relatively quick spells and you tend to blame things. Odds are their deliveries weren't effective or things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 but the whole freakin pitching staff all the way to the minor system.. something has definately got to be very wrong wouldnt you think???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 It could be, but look at the Cubs and all the injuries they've had. Then take a look at other systems and you'll see tons of pitchers getting hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 jas come on even you have to admit here.. noone has had the problems we have had in the past two years with pitchers going down.. i mean even to effect it all the way down the system.....i never even knew what the heck a torn labrum was till year before last....none of us did for cryin out loud.... there is a big problem with our pitching program...someone has to take responsibility for it and make the necessary changes.. or we are going to be known as the team who burns out arms.....thats not a reputation i want to carry..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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