lostfan Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 03:23 PM) Really? You want the DC from one of the worst teams all season? I understand that Williams has a nice history, but to see the Jaguars pack it in with a good portion of the season left is pretty telling on how much the coaching is getting through to the players. And this isnt to say I want to keep Babich, I want him gone yesterday The Jaguars weren't really s*** before Williams got there because they had absolutely ZERO pass rush, I hardly blame him for the condition of that team. Williams has been the architect of enough top 5 defenses in his career for me to be able to overlook this past season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 03:38 PM) Lions have had every chance to beat the Vikings today, but looks like they're going to lose again. I'm pretty excited to see a team go 0-16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I was cold at the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 05:16 PM) I was cold at the game. I wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 The Steelers offensive line is so awful. Mixed with a QB that loves to the hold onto the ball like it is a new born baby instead of throwing it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 05:34 PM) The Steelers offensive line is so awful. Mixed with a QB that loves to the hold onto the ball like it is a new born baby instead of throwing it away. Yeah, they are always fun to watch because their defense is just so amazingly good, and their offensive line (in terms of pass blocking) is so amazingly awful (although as you said, Big Ben just holds the ball too long). And yet again, Dallas chokes like dogs in the clutch, it amazes me that one of the top 3 or 4 franchises in NFL history has turned into notorious chokers the last decade. New Orleans did them a BIG favor today though, that NFC playoff race is pretty crazy. It's a shame the Lions couldn't help the Bears out today, but at least the Bears helped themselves. Edited December 8, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Dick LeBeau is amazing. Arguably the best DC in the history of the NFL, and the sole reason for the Steelers being 10-3 right now. Tomlin just stands in the sideline and either claps when things are going bad or chest bumps his players. Thank God for the Rooney rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 So the Cardinals win the NFC West. The Cardinals have done a great job this year and all, but god is the NFC West f***ing pathetic. Holy s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 06:59 PM) Dick LeBeau is amazing. Arguably the best DC in the history of the NFL, and the sole reason for the Steelers being 10-3 right now. Tomlin just stands in the sideline and either claps when things are going bad or chest bumps his players. Thank God for the Rooney rule. Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 If the Ravens can score on offense, they are the best in the AFC, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 06:59 PM) Dick LeBeau is amazing. Arguably the best DC in the history of the NFL, and the sole reason for the Steelers being 10-3 right now. Tomlin just stands in the sideline and either claps when things are going bad or chest bumps his players. Thank God for the Rooney rule. Yeah, whatever buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 09:50 PM) If the Ravens can score on offense, they are the best in the AFC, IMO. I will say Colts right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 My Power Rankings 1. Titans 2. Giants 3. Colts 4. Steelers 5. Ravens 6. Bucs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 11:39 PM) My Power Rankings 1. Titans 2. Giants 3. Colts 4. Steelers 5. Ravens 6. Bucs Keep in mind, these are not College football rankings. I do not care entirely about records. My rankings below are the top 10 teams in the NFL, in my eyes, right now. 1.Giants 2.Colts 3.Steelers 4.Titans 5.Cowboys 6.Panthers 7.Ravens 8.Bucs 9.Eagles 10 Patriots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (rangercal @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 11:37 PM) Keep in mind, these are not College football rankings. I do not care entirely about records. My rankings below are the top 10 teams in the NFL, in my eyes, right now. 1.Giants 2.Colts 3.Steelers 4.Titans 5.Cowboys 6.Panthers 7.Ravens 8.Bucs 9.Eagles 10 Patriots You do realize that not only did the Titans beat the Colts this year, but they’ve been strong against them for years. That and the Colts rushing D is terrible, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 You do realize that the KEY WORDS in my post are "right now"? If the colts play the titans Right Now on a neutral field and I had the bet my house, I pick the colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (rangercal @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 11:53 PM) If the colts play the titans Right Now on a neutral field and I had the bet my house, I pick the colts. You can use my couch after you make that bet, if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 What exactly has changed since the beginning of the season? Yeah, Manning's progressed, but they still have faults and are beating the crap out of bad teams. Meanwhile, the Titans laid an absolute egg up in New York, but have been steady the rest of the year. Plus, they play into the Colts Weaknesses. Also, I realize that saying, “you do realize” in that tone was slightly condescending”, my bad and no harm meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 12:54 AM) You can use my couch after you make that bet, if you want. QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 12:59 AM) What exactly has changed since the beginning of the season? Yeah, Manning's progressed, but they still have faults and are beating the crap out of bad teams. Meanwhile, the Titans laid an absolute egg up in New York, but have been steady the rest of the year. Plus, they play into the Colts Weaknesses. Also, I realize that saying, "you do realize" in that tone was slightly condescending", my bad and no harm meant. Think what you want. It's my opinion. Remember in the NFL "Any Given Sunday". The last few weeks we have seen the Broncos lose to the Raiders Titans lose to the Jets Jets Lose to the Broncos There are so many variables in the NFL , differentiation of schedules,injuries, the right game plan. My rankings are what I see at face value. Edited December 8, 2008 by rangercal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 FWIW Ranger, I have absolutely no problem with your rankings. I'd disagree with a few things as I think the Eagles are too inconsistent to be a top 10 team though they do have the talent, but overall they look pretty good. Even at 12-1, I'm having trouble believing in the Titans. oh, and 6 points in the last 8 quarters for Buffalo after a game in which they scored 54 f***ing points. Yeah, pack it in boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 01:23 AM) FWIW Ranger, I have absolutely no problem with your rankings. I'd disagree with a few things as I think the Eagles are too inconsistent to be a top 10 team though they do have the talent, but overall they look pretty good. Even at 12-1, I'm having trouble believing in the Titans. oh, and 6 points in the last 8 quarters for Buffalo after a game in which they scored 54 f***ing points. Yeah, pack it in boys. The Eagles are inconsistent, you are right about that. But, Westbrook has been unreal the last 2 weeks. The eagles with Westbrook playing at a high level are a top 10 team, imo. Without Westbrook being a major factor, they might not be a top 20 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 06:59 PM) Dick LeBeau is amazing. Arguably the best DC in the history of the NFL, and the sole reason for the Steelers being 10-3 right now. Tomlin just stands in the sideline and either claps when things are going bad or chest bumps his players. Thank God for the Rooney rule. Well if ignorance is bliss, this post is the epitome of joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 02:12 AM) Well if ignorance is bliss, this post is the epitome of joy. ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (rangercal @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 12:15 AM) ouch I mean really, that's as misinformed a post (at least the Tomlin part) as I've ever seen on the NFL on this board. LeBeau was there for Cowher's first 5 years (all playoff years) in Pittsburgh, and they missed the playoffs 3 of the next 4 years after he left. Does that mean Cowher couldn't coach his first 9 years in the Steel City and LeBeau did all the work? Edited December 8, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 02:34 AM) I mean really, that's as misinformed a post (at least the Tomlin part) as I've ever seen on the NFL on this board. LeBeau was there for Cowher's first 5 years (all playoff years) in Pittsburgh, and they missed the playoffs 3 of the next 4 years after he left. Does that mean Cowher couldn't coach his first 9 years in the Steel City and LeBeau did all the work? I agree. I was just looking for a doctor, because you burned him with that post pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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