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Jay Bilas said tonight "I played against Michael Jordan in college, and he did not outcompete Tyler Hansbrough".

 

Not only is that the dumbest quote I've ever heard on a college basketball game, it literally made me laugh out loud. Why don't the announcers just say "Tyler Hansbrough is a great COLLEGE player, but he's white and tries hard so I want to give him a blow job". I mean, that's basically how games are broadcasted now that he is in.

 

I almost feel bad for the kid, he's basically the 2nd coming of Christian Laettner in every sense of the word (all time great college player who might last long, but will do very little, in the NBA) except he actually doesn't seem like a douche. I can't stand "Psycho T", but it's because of the media and not because of a thing he did. I can't imagine he wants every broadcaster to just go totally overboard about him.

 

I just don't understand why him "trying so hard" matters. I guarantee a lot of players out there try just as hard as this guy, but he tries harder because he flails around? I'm not sure trying hard causes him to get all those rebounds, or be a good free throw shooter, or be able to hit big jump shots, ability does. I simply am baffled at the media coverage of this guy, and the sad part is I bet he is too.

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They keep saying it because how much harder he works off the court than other players. Unfortunately they don't ever mention how skilled he is instead though. He's always the fastest big man on the floor and usually the best rebounder on the floor, and best big man shooter on the floor, but no, it's all about how hard he tries.

 

I've heard "his will exceeds his skill, but his skill is considerable" about 1,000 times from Jay Bilas. It's time to retire that quote.

 

 

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QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 10:24 AM)
They keep saying it because how much harder he works off the court than other players. Unfortunately they don't ever mention how skilled he is instead though. He's always the fastest big man on the floor and usually the best rebounder on the floor, and best big man shooter on the floor, but no, it's all about how hard he tries.

 

I've heard "his will exceeds his skill, but his skill is considerable" about 1,000 times from Jay Bilas. It's time to retire that quote.

 

That's my point. You, I, Jay Bilas, nor anybody else can determine how hard he is trying in a game. That's ridiculous. Yeah he's trying hard, but I've never seen a great player who doesn't try hard before. I don't get how people determine Hansbrough tries hard more often than anybody else because it's ridiculous. I can honestly say the most overblown thing I have ever seen in the history of any sport is how hard Tyler Hansbrough tries.

 

I can believe he's the hardest working guy OFF the court on the team because that is where you distinguish work ethics is practice, but most of the stuff said about his work ethic in games is asinine. He may try hard, but trying hard doesn't make you put up 23 and 10 a night. I honestly wonder if he gets this treatment because he's white, as D.J. White is a very similar player to Hansbrough (not quite as good for a career, but he was very similar to Hansbrough this year especially) and you never heard a word about how hard he tries.

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but most of the stuff said about his work ethic in games is asinine

 

Agree to an extent, but comments like these yesterday don't help the cause.

 

From Pitino,

“Because I've coached against Michael in his prime, Barkley in his prime, Kareem when he left, Magic, all the great ones I've been fortunate to watch and observe those guys. Certainly he doesn't have those abilities of those superstars, but just like shooting, rebounding, playing defense, passing, skills, working hard is an acquired skill. Every NBA coach would love to have a player not only because he works hard, but he has a lot of talent. Imagine that. You know, we have an old saying as an offensive rebounder, "treat every shot as a pass to you." And it's a good saying, except most players can't do that. He does that."

 

 

Or from Terrance Williams,

“I've never been on the court where someone goes hard for every position, every rebound, dives on the floor and do whatever to make his time win. He deserves everything that he gets.”

 

 

Or Padgett,

“He deserves every accolade and all the success that he gets. Like Coach said, I've never played against somebody who plays that hard, and the kid is just absolutely determined to be a great basketball player. And big-time players make big-time plays and he made two big-time plays at the end of game.”

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QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 10:48 AM)
Agree to an extent, but comments like these yesterday don't help the cause.

 

From Pitino,

“Because I've coached against Michael in his prime, Barkley in his prime, Kareem when he left, Magic, all the great ones I've been fortunate to watch and observe those guys. Certainly he doesn't have those abilities of those superstars, but just like shooting, rebounding, playing defense, passing, skills, working hard is an acquired skill. Every NBA coach would love to have a player not only because he works hard, but he has a lot of talent. Imagine that. You know, we have an old saying as an offensive rebounder, "treat every shot as a pass to you." And it's a good saying, except most players can't do that. He does that."

Or from Terrance Williams,

“I've never been on the court where someone goes hard for every position, every rebound, dives on the floor and do whatever to make his time win. He deserves everything that he gets.”

Or Padgett,

“He deserves every accolade and all the success that he gets. Like Coach said, I've never played against somebody who plays that hard, and the kid is just absolutely determined to be a great basketball player. And big-time players make big-time plays and he made two big-time plays at the end of game.”

 

Guess a few disagree with you 101. lol

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QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 04:52 PM)
Guess a few disagree with you 101. lol

 

That's fine, you and all of them are wrong. If you really think Tyler Hansbrough tries harder than anybody else in games, your an idiot and that goes for anybody who says it. I can buy he tries harder than anybody else in terms of practice and practice time, but everybody works their ass off in college games, I've been to enough of them and been paid to be at enough of them the last 2 years to know that now.

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QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 06:56 PM)
That's fine, you and all of them are wrong. If you really think Tyler Hansbrough tries harder than anybody else in games, your an idiot and that goes for anybody who says it. I can buy he tries harder than anybody else in terms of practice and practice time, but everybody works their ass off in college games, I've been to enough of them and been paid to be at enough of them the last 2 years to know that now.

 

Somebody's an idiot, that's for sure.

 

If you think there are players that coast on some possessions or don't go all out all of the time then you just might be it. Coaches push their players every day to push themselves every play in every sport. RARELY is that actually accomplised. There is a difference between trying hard and actually going all out 100% all of the time. I haven't seen 100% of Hansbrough's time on the floor to definitively say that is him, but I can see how relentless he is. What do you think makes a great rebounder? Being relentless. Do you really think DJ White was as aggressive in past seasons as he was this year? Hell no. He finally realized there was another level for his game to reach and he became a different player.

 

So to act as if everybody competes with equal fervor all the time is assinine. Have you ever played a sport? Are you going to honestly tell me that every teammate you had competed equally? If your answer is yes, then my assumption is that you were the lazy ass dragging the rest of the team down.

 

Your argument is silly and completely colored by whatever reason you don't like him or Carolina.

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