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QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 29, 2008 -> 02:49 AM)
I was just embarassed by that statement. Two teams made it to the Sweet 16, with one losing to a mid major double digit seed by 20 and the other down by 30 at halftime. They sure showed me!! I may have been wrong about the timing of the exits, but not about the garbage that is the teams.

 

That statement embarrassed you? Really? It's a hard-and-fast issue here without a gray area. I'm pretty sure I recall you making a statement that no Big 10 teams would make it past the first weekend. Perhaps I'm recalling incorrectly? If you I'm remembering correctly, however, and you said no Big 10 team would make it past the first weekend, you were wrong, plain and simple.

 

And there's not a whole lot more to that. My comment wasn't a defense of Big 10 teams, just calling you out on a failed prediction.

 

But it's certainly possible that I'm confusing you with someone else.

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Oh my statement that no Big 10 team would survive the first weekend was cut and dry wrong. I am just saying that the embarassing performances by Michigan State and Wisconsin tonight reinforce that the Big 10 is still a joke and was the worst BCS league in the nation this year (outside of MAYBE the SEC). Basically, I was wrong but the Big 10 still blows.

 

On a side note, the sooner the Big 10 realizes it blows and that they need to get some new refs who will actually call fouls, the better. All of the 55-53 games in league play are the main reason the league is so bad. Another big reason is recruiting is down, but the reason recruiting is down is nobody wants to play in a league with 55-53 games. The Big 10 allows more fouls to go uncalled than another other league in America and it's not close, and that has to change. The best comparison I can use is the Big 10 needs to do what the NHL did and just call everything a penalty.

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QUOTE(zenryan @ Mar 29, 2008 -> 12:36 AM)
maybe these "experts" on tv will realize the Big 10 doesnt play great defense but that the offenses in that league are horrible.

Yeah totally, I mean a year ago they werent in the title game or anything.......

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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 29, 2008 -> 02:09 AM)
Yeah totally, I mean a year ago they werent in the title game or anything.......

 

And other than Ohio State, not a single Big 10 team even survived the first weekend. It was a garbage league last year too, it just had one extremely good team in it. Just as it was garbage in 2006 when the 6 NCAA Tournament teams from the league split losing with 3 going out in the first round and 3 in the 2nd round. You can't argue with the league being quality at the top in 2005 with 3 elite 8 and 2 final four teams (one making the final), but this is the 3rd straight year where the league proved useless in the NCAA Tournament.

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There are no dominant leagues this year. I don't know why the Big Ten is considered so down when no other league has done anything worth noting in the tournament. Yes...the Big Ten had a lot of crap teams but so did a lot of other leagues.

 

Only the Big 12 has more than one team in the Elite 8. Other than that the ACC has 1, Atlantic 10 - 1, Big East - 1, C-USA - 1, Pac-10 - 1, Southern - 1. ACC other than UNC is crap. SEC is truly craptastic. Big East has a lot of good teams but the bottom of that 16 team conference is horrid and even the top proved not so great (UConn, Georgetown).

 

My point is that yes the Big 10 is bad but not any/much worse than these other conferences that people don't constantly bash every year. Also, its difficult to rate conferences because a conference can be top heavy but horrible at the bottom or simply good/mediocre throughout and you have to decide which is better. The focus has to be on the individual teams and only 5 or 6 (UNC, Memphis, UCLA, Kansas, Texas, Louisville) this year can really be considered great.

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What a momentum killing timeout taken by McKillop there. They had a 4 pt lead with possession and the crowd behind them, and a minute later, they're down 1. Some more bad coaching, as they keep trying to take time off the clock. They've been much more successful when they shoot early in the possession.

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Really wasn't a huge fan of that last play. If you are going to run a high pick and roll it has to be someone who can hit the shot on the pick and pop because you know that Kansas is not going have both defenders go to Curry coming off of that pick. Would have been better off just isolating for him at the top and running Barr off of a pick.

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