scenario Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) Just saw this and thought there might be a relationship to the Uribe move. Is there some sort of deal with the Dodgers in the works that requires us to clear a roster spot, maybe? Dodgers' Garciaparra has broken bone in hand, may miss opening day March 19th, 2008. PHOENIX -- Nomar Garciaparra has a broken bone in his right hand, and the Los Angeles Dodgers' third baseman might not be ready for opening day. Garciaparra had an MRI on Wednesday in Los Angeles that revealed a microfracture. The Dodgers do not consider the injury to be as serious as a complete fracture of a bone, and expect to know more once the 34-year-old is examined Thursday by the team's medical staff in Arizona. A two-time AL batting champion, Garciaparra was hit by a pitch March 7 and has had pain in his hand ever since, making it difficult to swing a bat. He's had two X-rays and two MRIs, neither of which showed any structural damage in the area where he was struck. "We'll see where Nomar's at in another week or so, and in the meantime, we'll continue to see if we can figure out (a replacement) from within or outside," general manager Ned Colletti said Wednesday. Garciaparra took batting practice Tuesday, and had been throwing without any problems. Tony Abreu and Blake DeWitt are thought to be the leading candidates to start at third on opening day if Garciaparra is not ready, although the 22-year-old DeWitt has never played above Double-A. "Blake DeWitt's got a hell of an opportunity to hang out with the big boys," Dodgers manager Joe Torre said Wednesday. Asked whether DeWitt is ready to play in the majors, Torre replied: "Some people are saying yes, some people are saying maybe. Nobody says for sure that he's not ready." It's also possible the Dodgers might trade for a third baseman. Garciaparra and prospect Andy LaRoche were expected to compete for the third base job when spring training began, but LaRoche tore a ligament in his right thumb the same day Garciaparra was hit in the hand. LaRoche is expected to be sidelined at least until the middle of May. Edited March 20, 2008 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I fully endorse Alexei Ramírez at 2B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Manny Ramirez was placed on irrevocable waivers a few years ago and any team could take him if they picked up his contract. Nobody claimed him so he remained in Boston. I have the feeling the White Sox didn't waive Uribe for the purpose of giving him his unconditional release because if they did, I believe he would have packed his bags by now. Its probably the same situation. You can have him if you take the contract. If you don't want to pay the entire thing, he'll probably stay put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) Waivers just might be the most complicated single aspect of the rules. In the rule book, a waiver is defined as "... a permission granted for certain assignments of player contracts or for the unconditional release of a Major League player ..." If a player placed on Major League waivers is not claimed by another team during the three business days after waivers have been requested, then the players is said to have "cleared waivers," and the team has secured waivers for the remainder of the waiver period. And what does that mean? Essentially, the team can do with the player's contract as it pleases. This generally means one of three things: (1) They can send him to the minors (subject to his consent, if he's a "Veteran Player," more on that below). (2) They can release him, which makes the player a free agent and thus available to sign with any team. (3) They can trade him to another team, even if the so-called "trading deadline" has passed. Any trades made after July 31 may only involve players who have cleared waivers. If a player doesn't clear waivers -- in other words, if he's claimed by another team or teams -- the club requesting waivers may withdraw the waiver request. If the club doesn't withdraw the waiver request, the player's contract is assigned in the following manner: (A) If only one claim is entered, the player's contract is assigned to that claiming club. (B) If more than one club in the same league makes claims, the club currently lower in the standings gets the player. © If clubs in both leagues claim the player, preference shall always go to the club in the same league as the club requesting waivers. There are other, more esoteric rules involved here. For example, during the first 30 days of the season, the previous season's final standings are used to determine claim order, rather than the current standings. This is from a Rob Neyer article that I bookmarked just for times like this. Emphasis mine. Edited March 20, 2008 by YASNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 According to Ozzie in the Uribe status uncertain column on whitesox.com, Uribe is on waivers to gauge interest, not to be released. He also said Ozuna looks like the starter opening day because of his success vs. Sabathia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 09:15 PM) Did you also ask him why he would care since he's a cubs fan? Ranger is from the STL... a Cardinal Fan. And I am pretty sure he is a Sox and Cardinal Fan now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Juan Uribe is a waste of 4.5 million dollars on or off the team. Hell, we might be better off paying him 4.5 million to be off the team, because Ramirez is already 100x better then Uribe and should be the starting 2B (with Richar platooning, and Ramirez getting playing time in CF/LF/SS as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 10:47 PM) According to Ozzie in the Uribe status uncertain column on whitesox.com, Uribe is on waivers to gauge interest, not to be released. He also said Ozuna looks like the starter opening day because of his success vs. Sabathia. I hate to say it, but it makes sense. Might as well see who wants him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsox Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 03:47 AM) According to Ozzie in the Uribe status uncertain column on whitesox.com, Uribe is on waivers to gauge interest, not to be released. He also said Ozuna looks like the starter opening day because of his success vs. Sabathia. Brian Anderson should be starting in CF on Opening Day since he's had some success off Sabathia as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Lemon Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 10:47 PM) He also said Ozuna looks like the starter opening day because of his success vs. Sabathia. Nice, so Ozzie's opening day, as of now, lineup would look something like this?: Ozuna 2B Ocab SS Fields DH Thome DH PK 1B Swisher LF JD RF Crede 3B AJ C Ramirez or Anderson or Owens CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 12:04 AM) Ranger is from the STL... a Cardinal Fan. And I am pretty sure he is a Sox and Cardinal Fan now. I disagree because I know his group of friends, but ill let it be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 07:30 AM) I hate to say it, but it makes sense. Might as well see who wants him. He's played well this spring. If there ever was a time from when he was signed until now when someone would be willing to take the entire contract, you have to figure now is the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False Alarm Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 02:13 PM) I disagree because I know his group of friends, but ill let it be. i'm friends with his roommate. he's a cards fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) I made love to his dog. Ranger's a Pirates fan. Seriously guys, wtf? Edited March 20, 2008 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock4Life Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I was going to go look for that neyer article, but you beat me to it. i am guessing they threw him on waivers to gauge interest. and if nobody claims him now, it may open a door for a late trade in the season, past the deadline, since he has already cleared waivers for the year. question, does this 'cleared" status follow him if he is traded during the year? say he clears waivers now. we trade him to a different team in a few weeks, can that team then send him in a deal past the deadline? or does his "cleared" status get whiped clear after the trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I do not want any part of this guy's first swing fly out to right fielder anymore. Ramirez really looks like a stunning baseball player. For the meantime, Richar would fit nicely to begin t he season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 "Uribe has been a great spring training player, then all of a sudden the spring training is over and we see another player," Guillen said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 How does everyone know Ramirez isn't the same way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 10:39 AM) How does everyone know Ramirez isn't the same way? Maybe he does, then again we know for a fact that once the bell rings, Profundo will be swinging for the Dan Ryan bringing a sub 300 OBP, and a BA somewhere in the 220s to the 240s. While his peripherals have been decreasing, his weight has been increasing. The sox were so sour on him, that they traded their top trading chip and picked up his replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 10:47 AM) The sox were so sour on him, that they traded their top trading chip and picked up his replacement. If they were so sour on him, they would never have re-signed him, but ignore the facts, back to your Uribe weight bashing. Edited March 20, 2008 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 A picture Uribe with a bus parked on him and Guillen playing the role of Jackie Gleason in the Honeymooners promo after reading that quote. ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 11:36 AM) If they were so sour on him, they would never have re-signed him, but ignore the facts, back to your Uribe weight bashing. Yeah, because they had 10 days after the WS to find a replacement or go forward with no SS. The White Sox hedged their bets and it bit them in the arse. Yet, if they didn't have Uribe and couldn't get Cabrera, then we'd have Cintron or Alexei or Ozuna at SS and OOOOOHHHHH the bashing that would be taking place, especially since Richar is hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) If they were so sour on him, they would never have re-signed him, but ignore the facts, back to your Uribe weight bashing. It was the right thing to do, to sign a starting SS to a "reasonably" cheap contract in hopes of trading him. Do you expect them to just let him go for nothing? No, that would be dumb. Just like it would be now, but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 11:41 AM) Yeah, because they had 10 days after the WS to find a replacement or go forward with no SS. The White Sox hedged their bets and it bit them in the arse. Yet, if they didn't have Uribe and couldn't get Cabrera, then we'd have Cintron or Alexei or Ozuna at SS and OOOOOHHHHH the bashing that would be taking place, especially since Richar is hurt. Seriously picture this. Kenny lets both Crede and Uribe walk, and then Anaheim raises their price to ridiculous levels on Cabrera, because they know Kenny is desparate. Our options literally become Andy Gonzalez, Pablo Ozuna, and someone like David Eckstein. If you really want to make things interesting, take a look at the roster if the maligned Swisher trade isn't made in addition to the convential wisdom of not bringing back Joe and Juan. Our OF would be Anderson/Owens, Quinten, and Dye, to go with an IF of Fields, [insert horrible SS], Ramirez/Richar, and Konerko. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 11:41 AM) Yeah, because they had 10 days after the WS to find a replacement or go forward with no SS. The White Sox hedged their bets and it bit them in the arse. Yet, if they didn't have Uribe and couldn't get Cabrera, then we'd have Cintron or Alexei or Ozuna at SS and OOOOOHHHHH the bashing that would be taking place, especially since Richar is hurt. I think we'd be much better off with Alexei as the starting SS instead of Cabrera and Garland in the rotation instead of Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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