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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 05:13 PM)
Than what do you base your enthusiasm about Carlos Quentin on? His 170 AB in 2006 and minor league numbers? It can't be his 2007. 200 AB in 2002 with Crede's minor league track record, he was MVP in AA and AAA, and now you think he sucks.

Do you get off comparing apples and oranges? Are you going to continue to bring in irrelevant player's name to try and posture. I have Crede's MAJOR LEAGUE NUMBERS to determine what he is as a player, that how I can determine that he sucks. Is there a team in the majors that would trade their 3B for Crede?

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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 05:17 PM)
Do you get off comparing apples and oranges? Are you going to continue to bring in irrelevant player's name to try and posture. I have Crede's MAJOR LEAGUE NUMBERS to determine what he is as a player, that how I can determine that he sucks. Is there a team in the majors that would trade their 3B for Crede?

I'm just pointing out that the same things you are saying about Fields you must of been saying about Crede 6 years ago. That he's only going to get better, blah, blah,blah, and now you say he sucks. BTW, throw out last year because he was hurt and Crede had been trending upward with average and slugging in 2005 and 2006.

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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 03:19 PM)
Ah, it only works when he's BAD in spring training to determine we should be worried, good outings must be taken with a grain of salt. OK.

And importantly, it also only works for people we don't like, like Floyd. People who liked the Dotel signing felt free to brush off his disastrous outing yesterday, and they feel free to brush off a good outing by Floyd today. But bad outings by Floyd...now that's where you learn what you have.

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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 03:22 PM)
Good and bad should be taken with a grain of salt at this point of time.

On that we agree. Which is why the "Gavin Floyd sucks and should be cut tomorrow!" thread that popped up after his last outing was so frustrating and annoying.

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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 05:21 PM)
I'm just pointing out that the same things you are saying about Fields you must of been saying about Crede 6 years ago. That he's only going to get better, blah, blah,blah, and now you say he sucks. BTW, throw out last year because he was hurt and Crede had been trending upward with average and slugging in 2005 and 2006.

Yes, most people say that about heralded prospects when they first come up and have potential, welcome to the world of baseball, I didnt know you were new.

 

I will state this again, just in case your posturing missed it. Fields has shown in his 100 games last season that he can produce at the same level if not a bit higher than Crede's CAREER numbers. He improved each month, and since his track record is that of improvement at a high rate and that he hasnt hit his "ceiling" yet, he is a higher value than Crede right now. He has the POTENTIAL to be a better player than Crede for less money for a longer time. Not only that, but his win shares last year in a short time equal about what Crede was putting up over a full season. Fields is the best bet for the Sox now, and moving forward, and Crede cant even get a job with teams that dont have viable 3B candidates.

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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 05:21 PM)
And importantly, it also only works for people we don't like, like Floyd. People who liked the Dotel signing felt free to brush off his disastrous outing yesterday, and they feel free to brush off a good outing by Floyd today. But bad outings by Floyd...now that's where you learn what you have.

How bout the Thome is finished posts from the first few weeks of ST?

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