HuskyCaucasian Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/ Did anyone have a chance to watch this? It was VERY interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 08:22 AM) http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/ Did anyone have a chance to watch this? It was VERY interesting. I was probably watching Fox News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 i did. very interesting to see the inside workings of the office. imo the piece made Bush, Tenet and Powell to seem better than I originally expected, with Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld made out to be the idiots of the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 09:44 AM) i did. very interesting to see the inside workings of the office. imo the piece made Bush, Tenet and Powell to seem better than I originally expected, with Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld made out to be the idiots of the group. I didn't watch it, but I'm not surprised they were made out to be the idiots of the group. If Bush could have a redo, I would think, or at least hope he wouldn't put some of his dad's cabinat into his administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 08:54 AM) I didn't watch it, but I'm not surprised they were made out to be the idiots of the group. If Bush could have a redo, I would think, or at least hope he wouldn't put some of his dad's cabinat into his administration. Why is it that people constantly let Mr. Bush off the hook. "Oh, it was just Cheney and Rumsfeld, if Bush had it to do over again he'd know better". The dude still to this day defends the Iraq war as practically the greatest decision he ever made, at every opportunity to pull back he chooses to escalate the conflict, I haven't seen a shred of evidence that would convince me that if Bush had it to do over again, he'd be more open, more practical, or more dovish. He got the war he wanted with the people he wanted leading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 09:58 AM) Why is it that people constantly let Mr. Bush off the hook. "Oh, it was just Cheney and Rumsfeld, if Bush had it to do over again he'd know better". The dude still to this day defends the Iraq war as practically the greatest decision he ever made, at every opportunity to pull back he chooses to escalate the conflict, I haven't seen a shred of evidence that would convince me that if Bush had it to do over again, he'd be more open, more practical, or more dovish. He got the war he wanted with the people he wanted leading it. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 10:58 AM) Why is it that people constantly let Mr. Bush off the hook. "Oh, it was just Cheney and Rumsfeld, if Bush had it to do over again he'd know better". The dude still to this day defends the Iraq war as practically the greatest decision he ever made, at every opportunity to pull back he chooses to escalate the conflict, I haven't seen a shred of evidence that would convince me that if Bush had it to do over again, he'd be more open, more practical, or more dovish. He got the war he wanted with the people he wanted leading it. Honest question here... Has there been a President since Nixon who actually owned up to doing something (big) stupid or illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 11:36 AM) Honest question here... Has there been a President since Nixon who actually owned up to doing something (big) stupid or illegal? Depends on what the definition of the word "to" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 10:36 AM) Honest question here... Has there been a President since Nixon who actually owned up to doing something (big) stupid or illegal? It certainly wasn't Bill Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 09:36 AM) Honest question here... Has there been a President since Nixon who actually owned up to doing something (big) stupid or illegal? President Obama has admitted drug use in his past... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) Honest question here... Has there been a President since Nixon who actually owned up to doing something (big) stupid or illegal? Jimmy Carter lusted in his heart, does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 02:08 PM) Jimmy Carter lusted in his heart, does that count? Jimmy Carter never counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 10:58 AM) Why is it that people constantly let Mr. Bush off the hook. "Oh, it was just Cheney and Rumsfeld, if Bush had it to do over again he'd know better". The dude still to this day defends the Iraq war as practically the greatest decision he ever made, at every opportunity to pull back he chooses to escalate the conflict, I haven't seen a shred of evidence that would convince me that if Bush had it to do over again, he'd be more open, more practical, or more dovish. He got the war he wanted with the people he wanted leading it. I never let Bush off the hook. I just think he has had a horrible cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 02:14 PM) I never let Bush off the hook. I just think he has had a horrible cabinet. And it's a cabinet he choose. And it's a cabinet he stuck by. It's a cabinet he doesn't fire people from. It's a cabinet where Rumsfeld tried to resign repeatedly and Bush wouldn't let him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 04:21 PM) And it's a cabinet he choose. And it's a cabinet he stuck by. It's a cabinet he doesn't fire people from. It's a cabinet where Rumsfeld tried to resign repeatedly and Bush wouldn't let him. Which is why I never let him off the hook, but according to liberal UNI professors, Bush forced Powell out of his cabinet because Powell didn't agree with his plot at taking over the middle east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Jesus Christ. I've been pissed off by a few things already in this one...but Richard Armitage saying "Oops" to the whole no WMD thing...yeesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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