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Pitching Staff '08 Poll


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'08 Team Poll  

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  1. 1. Which White Sox starter will get the most wins this year?

    • Mark Buehrle
      44
    • Javy Vazquez
      58
    • John Danks
      2
    • Jose Contreras
      5
    • Gavin Floyd
      1
  2. 2. Who is more likely to get hurt first in 08'?

    • Jim Thome
      29
    • Jermaine Dye
      11
    • Scott Linebrink
      2
    • Octavio Dotel
      24
    • Joe Crede
      20
    • Other
      10
  3. 3. According to ESPN, Bobby Jenks is rated as the #11 best RP. Do you agree with this rating?

    • Yes.
      22
    • No.
      35
    • Yes, and that's already overrating him!
      5
    • No way, he is being underrated to the extreme!
      42
    • Jenks is the best RP in all of the Majors.
      8


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My pick for most wins is MB. My pick for first to be injured is Octavio Dotel. And the Jenks thing is interesting. Saw it on ESPN yesterday, and thought it was complete BS. I guess his 40 saves and 2.77 ERA wasn't good enough for him to be in the top 5. Post your picks and explanations here.

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QUOTE(jenks45monster @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 03:48 PM)
My pick for most wins is MB. My pick for first to be injured is Octavio Dotel. And the Jenks thing is interesting. Saw it on ESPN yesterday, and thought it was complete BS. I guess his 40 saves and 2.77 ERA wasn't good enough for him to be in the top 5. Post your picks and explanations here.

 

Coming from you, jenks45monster...I'm not surprised you think he should be in the top 5!!! :cheers

 

I think it's going to be Javy...I think he's going to be a fringe Cy Young candidate. As for injuries, I think there's going to be a freak injury. Like Uribe will be at a buffet and he mistakenly eats his own arm or something like that.

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QUOTE(jenks45monster @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 03:48 PM)
My pick for most wins is MB. My pick for first to be injured is Octavio Dotel. And the Jenks thing is interesting. Saw it on ESPN yesterday, and thought it was complete BS. I guess his 40 saves and 2.77 ERA wasn't good enough for him to be in the top 5. Post your picks and explanations here.

 

Coming from you, jenks45monster...I'm not surprised you think he should be in the top 5!!! :cheers

 

I think it's going to be Javy...I think he's going to be a fringe Cy Young candidate. As for injuries, I think there's going to be a freak injury. Like Uribe will be at a buffet and he mistakenly eats his own arm or something like that.

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QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 03:56 PM)
Coming from you, jenks45monster...I'm not surprised you think he should be in the top 5!!! :cheers

 

I think it's going to be Javy...I think he's going to be a fringe Cy Young candidate. As for injuries, I think there's going to be a freak injury. Like Uribe will be at a buffet and he mistakenly eats his own arm or something like that.

 

:cheers

 

As for Uribe at the buffet thing... that is one of the most true yet funniest things I've heard in a while. :lolhitting

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If Javy gets some help from the bullpen, and a little run support, I can see him making a run for the Cy Young. Give him 5 more wins last year (he got ripped off of at least 7 or 8 W's last year due to the pen and lack of run support), and I think he would have been in the top 3 of voting, if not the out-right winner.

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Javy

Dotel

No, that's underrating him to the extreme! He is Top 8 (is underrating by ~38% big time? Or else, I guess I should have just put "No")

 

If Dotel doesn't get hurt then that signing would be too good to be true so he probably will be hurt first and then help us out at the end of the year.

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I went with Javy to have the most wins. I think him and Mark are pretty equal when it comes to talent, but Javy will face the #2 pitchers while Mark will face the #1's. Gives Javy a slight edge. I'd take anywhere from 15-17 wins from him for sure. Whoever it was that said 15 wins for Contreras is suffering from a severe case of wishful thinking.

 

Predicting injuries? C'mon.

 

And as far as Jenks goes, I think he's one of the top 5 closers in baseball, and there are probably only a few set-up men that are in his league, so I think his #11 ranking is a little bit off. He's probably around #7 or #8 IMO. He just gets the job done, and that's what matters for relievers (especially closers).

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QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 04:10 PM)
If Javy gets some help from the bullpen, and a little run support, I can see him making a run for the Cy Young. Give him 5 more wins last year (he got ripped off of at least 7 or 8 W's last year due to the pen and lack of run support), and I think he would have been in the top 3 of voting, if not the out-right winner.

 

Uh, no. Not when Buehrle had a better ERA than Vazquez, and 15 other pitchers in the AL had better ERAs than him too.

 

Vazquez was not a Cy Young candiate last year, and it would take a slight alignment of the stars to have him get in the top 10 this season.

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QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 07:33 AM)
Uh, no. Not when Buehrle had a better ERA than Vazquez, and 15 other pitchers in the AL had better ERAs than him too.

 

Vazquez was not a Cy Young candiate last year, and it would take a slight alignment of the stars to have him get in the top 10 this season.

Even if Javier would have won 20 games last season, he wouldn't have won the Cy Young on a 3rd place team. Not with an ERA in the high 3's, at least.

 

You only have to look to 2003 to see a Sox pitcher who had a phenomenal season on a bad team and didn't win the CY. Loaiza that year went 21-9 with a 2.90 ERA. And that was a year the Sox finished in 2nd place, just 4 games out of 1st. So even if Javy would have had those 5 or 6 extra wins, he still wouldn't have had as good a year as Esteban had, and the Sox still would have been in the middle of the AL Central pack.

 

Interesting thing I just noticed. That year (2003), the Twins won the division, we were 2nd, the ROYALS were 3rd, Cleveland was 4th (68 wins), and the Tigers were dead last in the majors with 43 wins. Things sure can change fast.

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