NorthSideSox72 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Trib article discusses it. Who should get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 (edited) You dont keep Masset just because he's best suited for long relief. He has to give you something more than that. If that's all that matters, bring back Ohka. Or sign someone. But since they're both 25,26... go with the one that has proven some level of reliability since being at the MLB level. Wasserman has been arguably the most uplifting bullpen guy from last year and has to be on the team. EDIT: to be horribly honest, long relief, if not handled by MacDougal....is going to largely be one of these three guys who falters... Dotel, Linebrink, Thornton. Scary but plausible. Edited March 28, 2008 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I was just watching Sportrise on Comcast and Cooper expressed he would prefer the results guy which means Wasserman . I voted Wasserman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Dump MacDougal, keep both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 After Massetts struggle this spring I don't see how there isd any real choice to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Keep Wass.Too many decisions have been made this year by being forced by the situation.Choose the best damn players and put them in their best suited roles,its simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Why keep Masset around when he has shown absolutely nothing? Wassermann is clearly the better pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 (edited) didnt realize... masset has never really done all that well at AAA, let alone the MLB level. Edited March 28, 2008 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(knightni @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 10:29 AM) Dump MacDougal, keep both. id way way rather keep mac than masset...i guess you are forgetting how good macdougal can be (check his 2005 and 2006 especially). masset hasnt proven a damn thing and probably will never even come nearly as close to being as good as macdougal can be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(knightni @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 09:29 AM) Dump MacDougal, keep both. That would be my call as well, but, I think that ship has sailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 (edited) I dont understand the dump MacDougal train. The chance that he had injury-related problems last year, and now he's healed..... that is worth keeping him and seeing. If it was a one year aberration, then you have a really good pen. If he's really finished, and we find that out, then he was no worse than the current option Masset presents. If they're both this bad, Ohka should be up in a few months anyway. Edited March 28, 2008 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Send Was to AAA and cut Masset loose and bring back Carrasco or Ohka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(Princess Dye @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 10:23 AM) The chance that he had injury-related problems last year, and now he's healed..... that is worth keeping him and seeing. yeah he's really done well so far this spring, being healed and all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Wasserman is just much better, no way should Masset get it over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I voted Wasserman, but that spot should really go to D.J. Carrasco... from watching this spring, he's better then both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 10:53 AM) I voted Wasserman, but that spot should really go to D.J. Carrasco... from watching this spring, he's better then both of them. Looking at Carrasco's history, I'm not sure I'd put a lot of stake in his spring performance. He had a 6.68 ERA and a 1.78 WHIP in Tucson last year, and had a 14.81 ERA and 3.10 WHIP the year before, in Japan. His best major league season, 2005 with the Royals, he had a 4.79 ERA and walked more guys than he struck out. Carrasco's spring earned him a spot in Charlotte, and that's about his speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Wasserman should be on the team, simple enough decision imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 10:20 AM) Wasserman should be on the team, simple enough decision imo. As much as I hate to lose Masset with no return, I have to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Wasserman is who I picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 It looks like 4 people with shaky hands accidentally clicked on the "Nick Masset" option and logged it in. This should be a no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(Reddy @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 08:37 AM) yeah he's really done well so far this spring, being healed and all... I know that was sarcasm even if its not in green but his last 5-6 outings he's been stellar . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(Princess Dye @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 09:40 AM) didnt realize... masset has never really done all that well at AAA, let alone the MLB level. I think its hilarious that someone who uses statistics to prove her point also ignores them when suggesting MacDougal as a long reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 this is a no brainer, wasserman. if your starting rotation is having problems with one or more pitchers going more than 5 innings without getting totally abused, needing a longman to come in for relief on those days, or a "spot starter incase someone gets injured or simply can't do their job", then your team is already done for the year, especially when you're relying on masset to be that person to spot start or go long innings so play your strengths, put wasserman in the ROOGY specialist role and hope for the best, because masset isn't going to be able to give this team anything this year, to keep them in contention if another pitcher goes down, it's that simple really. we don't have the depth in pitching to survive a pitcher going down due to injury/sucking, so might as well put the guys on the team that are going to give us our best chance of winning under the assumption that every one of the 5 starting pitchers will stay in the rotation all year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(joesaiditstrue @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 05:22 PM) this is a no brainer, wasserman. if your starting rotation is having problems with one or more pitchers going more than 5 innings without getting totally abused, needing a longman to come in for relief on those days, or a "spot starter incase someone gets injured or simply can't do their job", then your team is already done for the year, especially when you're relying on masset to be that person to spot start or go long innings Not true at all. Rain delays, a starter having a bad day, getting hit by a line drive. There are TONS of reasons that you may need a long man. Sometimes you want to burn a game so you can be at full strength next game. When you have relievers with a history of injuries, and your pen is full of specialists, you need someone to flat out eat innings. Is Masset the guy? No, but we need someone to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 05:33 PM) Not true at all. Rain delays, a starter having a bad day, getting hit by a line drive. There are TONS of reasons that you may need a long man. Sometimes you want to burn a game so you can be at full strength next game. When you have relievers with a history of injuries, and your pen is full of specialists, you need someone to flat out eat innings. Is Masset the guy? No, but we need someone to do it. I can't believe I actually agree with Rock Raines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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