2008 General Election Discussion Thread

[southsider2k5]

Very few leaders in this country actually know what the f*** they're talking about.

 

I'd end that sentence right there

[lostfan]

I'd end that sentence right there

Touche.

[NorthSideSox72]

Very few leaders in this country actually know what the f*** they're talking about when it comes to energy, so frankly, I don't want to hear it.

Another reason for Obama to pick Richardson (or Gore) as VP.

 

[bmags]

again, no way in hell Gore would become VP. Would he become 'special advisor to the president' or something? yeah, but right now he's allowed to do whatever he wants and probably has more influence.

[southsider2k5]

again, no way in hell Gore would become VP. Would he become 'special advisor to the president' or something? yeah, but right now he's allowed to do whatever he wants and probably has more influence.

 

Not to mention he has gotten rich as hell off of the whole green thing, and there is no way he divests his positions to take the Veep job. I am convinced that is why he didn't run for the top job in the last two elections.

[Steve9347]

Let me just say, "What the f***, New Yorker?"

[HuskyCaucasian]

Let me just say, "What the f***, New Yorker?"

that's just.. yea, wow.

for those who havent seen it:

[bmags]

I thought it was funny.

[DBAHO]

Another reason for Obama to pick Richardson (or Gore) as VP.

I've heard a lot about Richardson becoming VP, as he'd be good for the Latino vote for Obama (although how would that affect white middle class voters who may then go from Clinton to McCain I wonder?).

 

Who are the other main candidates for the position?

[lostfan]

I thought it was funny.

I understand where they're going with it. It's a little over-the-top though. Then again I'm sure they know that.

[BigSqwert]

Let me just say, "What the f***, New Yorker?"

At least we can finally confirm that Obama is not Muslim because if he was then he'd be bombing embassies or something because of this.

[lostfan]

At least we can finally confirm that Obama is not Muslim because if he was then he'd be bombing embassies or something because of this.

Green not necessary?

[BigSqwert]

Green not necessary?

Didn't want to be called out on stereotyping.

[lostfan]

Didn't want to be called out on stereotyping.

It's not a stereotype if it's true.

 

In fact that's what makes me laugh about the whole thing. You're pissed that your religion gets mocked, and your prophet is portrayed as a terrorist, so what do you do in protest? Act exactly like a terrorist. ROFL. Way to fight those negative stereotypes!

[BigSqwert]

Heh. Good point.

[HuskyCaucasian]

If Obama were the Republican nominee and this was run, the GOP would be on every major news outlet and every talk show decrying this and saying how dare the "liberal media" libel a presidential candidate.

[southsider2k5]

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content...l_tracking_poll

 

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

Monday, July 14, 2008

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[lostfan]

Meh, Bush gets blasted pretty hard on a regular basis, I think the GOP is indifferent. There would be a standard manufactured outrage that follows any flap like this, and then it would die.

[southsider2k5]

If Obama were the Republican nominee and this was run, the GOP would be on every major news outlet and every talk show decrying this and saying how dare the "liberal media" libel a presidential candidate.

 

They don't seem to think much of it either...

 

Republican John McCain's campaign spokesman, Tucker Bonds, agreed that the cover was "tasteless and offensive."

 

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9...;show_article=1

[Heads22]

A couple of things.

 

One, Obama has done a wonderful job of turning red states purple and purple states red. The fact that he is polling ahead in states like North Carolina is pretty amazing, as he can really seem to mobilize a base.

 

Two, as far as Bill Richardson, at least here in Iowa, he tends to get a lot of respect from both Democrats and Republicans. I have no idea why Survey USA didn't include him on the polling with vice presidential matchups, but I do think he'd make Iowa overwhelmingly blue. It's simply amazing how many people I've talked to from both parties that feel he's very qualified.

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His plan has some holes, but its a far sight better than anything that McCain or Bush have offered. Although with McCain, he's sort of changed his mind a few times on it, so its hard to say what his plan really is.

I respectfully, completely disagree. Throwing money at the problem, blaming speculators, and investing some moneys in future development is not a comprehensive energy plan.

 

Bush, a terrible president, at least took some real action.

Edited July 14, 2008 by Maxwell

[mr_genius]

If Obama were the Republican nominee and this was run, the GOP would be on every major news outlet and every talk show decrying this and saying how dare the "liberal media" libel a presidential candidate.

 

the New Yorker cover is actually making fun of the perception of Obama. The New Yorker has been very pro-Obama, claiming that they are intentionally trying to hurt his campaign is false.

Edited July 15, 2008 by mr_genius

[mr_genius]

lol now the New Yorker is part of the vast right win conspiracy.

 

you guys are so off on this one i don't even know what to tell you all

[NorthSideSox72]

I respectfully, completely disagree. Throwing money at the problem, blaming speculators, and investing some moneys in future development is not a comprehensive energy plan.

 

Bush, a terrible president, at least took some real action.

Wait... you're serious about Bush taking "some real action"??? He sat on his ass for 7 years and watched a big problem become a GIANT problem, not to mention his policies and actions have contributed to the rise in the price of oil. And every time he gives a speech about alt energy, his spokesperson follows with a "he didn't mean it".

 

Bush has been abjectly awful on energy policy. Either of these candidates will probably be a world better.

 

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No doubt he has been terrible in the past. The fact remains, he took action today by lifting one ban on offshore drilling and urging congress to do the same. That will have a real effect on the price of oil, right now, should congress follow suit. If obama were implementing his plan at this moment, I could not say the same thing. I'd be sitting around waiting for a check for 5 months watching the problem get worse.

Edited July 15, 2008 by Maxwell