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QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 04:35 PM)
Obama is getting a nice bounce from the bad news on the economy right now IMO. Sounds a bit brutal, but bad news for the economy is good news for Obama.

It's the same as saying terrorism helps Republicans. It's harsh sounding and it's not really something to bring up casually as a candidate but it's true.

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QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 03:35 PM)
Obama is getting a nice bounce from the bad news on the economy right now IMO. Sounds a bit brutal, but bad news for the economy is good news for Obama.

 

Not as much as you might think. The 5 and 4 point non tracking polls that came out yesterday were all measured before the meltdown on Monday. Gallup and Diageo/Hotline trackers had the lead switch before the Meltdown could be factored in. I think you're seeing the meltdown accelerate a trend that appeared to be in place before hand.

 

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QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 01:34 PM)
When McCain got a convention bounce, it was Palin taking over!

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That was just some places though... a lot of people still called it what it was and were speculating when the "Palin Effect" would start wearing off.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 01:34 PM)
It was just really odd for me, that when Obama got his convention bounce, everyone called it a convention bounce.

 

When McCain got a convention bounce, it was McCain taking over!

The people who said that are idiots.

 

My prediction is that the polls will all be within margin of error on election day. What a surprise, eh?

 

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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 06:37 PM)
The people who said that are idiots.

 

My prediction is that the polls will all be within margin of error on election day. What a surprise, eh?

 

One thing I will bet all my money on, Missouri will be so close that I'll be forced to stay at the newsroom until 2 a.m. like every freaking election.

 

Even our local elections for assessor go down to the wire.

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For what it's worth:

Early Voting Kicks off in VA

 

Even though bags of candy corn and other Halloween treats have barely hit drugstore shelves, Virginia voters will start casting their ballots on Friday at early voting sites around the commonwealth. Another half dozen states will open up early voting next week before the candidates even meet for their first debate of the campaign. In all, 36 of the 50 states will allow early voting this year, including many key battleground states like Ohio and Colorado. As many as one-third of all voters are expected to make their selection before Election Day.
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The debate rules sheet is out. Compared to the ones involving Bush, they're quite a bit more open for the top 2. The VP debate rules however seem to be lockdown rules.

The Obama and McCain campaigns have agreed to an unusual free-flowing format for the three televised presidential debates, which begin Friday, but the McCain camp fought for and won a much more structured approach for the questioning at the vice-presidential debate, advisers to both campaigns said Saturday.

 

At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.

 

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 21, 2008 -> 02:36 PM)
Not inexperience, that doesn't mean anything. More like a lack of knowledge.

THat will be exposed plenty. You'll be able to tell by her "canned" / pre-planned answers and constant "reformer" defense without much explination as to HOW she will reform.

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QUOTE (longshot7 @ Sep 22, 2008 -> 10:30 AM)
Hopefully, Biden will attack McCain and not look like a sexist jerk (not by me, but by normal idiots) by attacking Palin.

I dont think you'll see Biden attacking her for thinks like her pastor, "God's War" or aerial hunting of wolves. But, is she starts using her staged lines where she lies about the bridge to no where and her jet, I think Biden will call her on it.

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I put a lot of stock into Survey USA, McCain should be worried....

Virginia - Obama +6

Obama (D) - 51%

McCain ® - 45%

 

Obama takes 91% of democrats and McCain takes 87% of Republicans. The tie breaker is independents which make up 22% of those polled. McCain edges out Obama ONLY 48-45. That's nearly a tie. McCain needs those independents to win VA.

 

I also just noticed this: "Among women, Obama led by 6 points before Sarah Palin was named to the GOP ticket, now leads by 16."

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I think there's something like 5 different things I laughed at in this article.

Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain will spend much of this week preparing for their first debate on Friday night.

 

The Wall Street Journal notes McCain "will spar this week in mock debates" with former Maryland lieutenant governor Michael Steele who will play Obama "and use many of his speaking patterns, tactics and body language." Obama "will practice with Greg Craig, a Washington lawyer and former official in the Clinton administration who is one of his few gray-haired advisers."

 

On the day of the debate, McCain "will host a town-hall event and take a short nap" while Obama "will work out or shoot hoops."

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