NorthSideSox72 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 13, 2008 -> 06:35 PM) 538 hasnt posted yet today, and I know/have a feeling there will be some real shockers in there. I see no shockers on RCP. Have a feeling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 13, 2008 -> 07:35 PM) 538 hasnt posted yet today, and I know/have a feeling there will be some real shockers in there. does 538 get polls before RCP or the general public? Because, I've seen all the polls posted so far today. nothing shocking or anything that makes me jump up and down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I like 538's chart the best. Rasmussen has Obama ahead in FL outside the margin or error (which is really big news) and there was a +2 for Obama in North Dakota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 13, 2008 -> 07:50 PM) I like 538's chart the best. Rasmussen has Obama ahead in FL outside the margin or error (which is really big news) and there was a +2 for Obama in North Dakota. yea, i noticed the Florida poll. Florida keeps looking better every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 yea, i noticed the Florida poll. Florida keeps looking better every week. Rasmussen has kind of been a hold out for Obama in FL, for him to have a lead like is a clear signal. Also, RCP doesn't count Research 2000 polls and 538 does... so we'll see if there is anything there. side note: I just found this and it's lol. This post has been edited by the Soxtalk staff to remove objectionable material. Soxtalk encourages a free discussion between its members, but does not allow personal attacks, threats, graphic sexual material, nudity, or any other materials judged offensive by the Administrators and Moderators. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 13, 2008 -> 04:54 PM) Rasmussen has kind of been a hold out for Obama in FL, for him to have a lead like is a clear signal. Also, RCP doesn't count Research 2000 polls and 538 does... so we'll see if there is anything there. Silver et al. take every bit of data they can get, but what they try to do is say "This poll is typically more friendly to BO than the others" or "This poll was done by Fox" and skew/weight them accordingly after looking at as many of the crosstabs as they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Thats beautiful, best polling day for the Obama campaign so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Oklahoma, Where the Wind Comes Sweepin' Down the Plain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Silver et al. take every bit of data they can get, but what they try to do is say "This poll is typically more friendly to BO than the others" or "This poll was done by Fox" and skew/weight them accordingly after looking at as many of the crosstabs as they can. I think thats a better strategy than RCP's in or out crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 13, 2008 -> 05:06 PM) I think thats a better strategy than RCP's in or out crap. Well of course it's better. Problem is, it requires a significant amount of work/intelligence to figure out how to do those correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Oh God sometimes I miss this district... Two challengers for an Indiana congressional seat have agreed to be hooked up to lie detectors during a debate, but an official with the incumbent's party dismisses the idea as "bizarre." Ninth District Republican Party Chairman Larry Shickles on Wednesday proposed the political polygraphs for Democratic Rep. Baron Hill, GOP challenger Mike Sodrel and Libertarian candidate Eric Schansberg. The three are scheduled to debate Oct. 21, but an official with a debate co-sponsor said lie detectors won't be included. "Our planning committee worked up the format and rules, and we are not inviting negotiations from the candidates," Alan Johnson, dean of Vincennes University's Jasper Campus, told The Herald of Jasper. Shickles, in a letter sent Tuesday to 9th District Democratic Chairman Mike Jones, suggested that the candidates be hooked up to lie detecting machines at the Oct. 21 event or a separate debate. "While this format may be unusual, I feel strongly that voters need to be able to make a clear decision without all the usual spin," Shickles wrote. Sodrel's campaign said he would agree to the proposal, and Schansberg said he also would agree to wear a lie detector. Hill declined to comment. Jones said having a lie detector debate "just seems pretty bizarre." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 5000 new voter registrations sunmitted by ACORN in Lake County, Indiana. The first 2100 that were checked are ALL frauds! Indiana sec of state calling for an investigation. ACORN's resonse? 1) We hired some 'bad apples' and 2) it's the government's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 LMAO Duke!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 13, 2008 -> 08:33 PM) 5000 new voter registrations sunmitted by ACORN in Lake County, Indiana. The first 2100 that were checked are ALL frauds! Indiana sec of state calling for an investigation. ACORN's resonse? 1) We hired some 'bad apples' and 2) it's the government's fault. haha. the Democrats up to their old tricks. Edited October 14, 2008 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 13, 2008 -> 08:30 PM) Oh God sometimes I miss this district... i would watch that reality tv show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 New Washington Post/Quinnipiac/Wall Street Journal poll: Colorado: Obama 52, McCain 43 Michigan: Obama 54, McCain 38 Minnesota: Obama 51, McCain 40 Wisconsin: Obama 54, McCain 37 Dates conducted: Oct. 8-12. Error margin: Ranges 2.8-3.1 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I think Obama should stage a campaign rally in Oklahoma. Just for funsies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Even Rove thinks Obama's got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) I'm starting to wonder if we should stop talking about Obama v McCain and move onto the senate and house races. This is how the Senate races look: Edited October 14, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 03:51 PM) I'm starting to wonder if we should stop talking about Obama v McCain and move onto the senate and house races. This Prez race is not over by a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 03:25 PM) This Prez race is not over by a long shot. I wouldn't say it's over but barring another terrorist attack I don't see anything that would shift the current dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Not sure where else to post this but I think this is pretty neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 03:25 PM) This Prez race is not over by a long shot. it's pretty much over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 04:56 PM) it's pretty much over The arrogance. if anything, will be the downfall. You can never assume that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (kapkomet @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 03:58 PM) The arrogance. if anything, will be the downfall. You can never assume that. Obama has MASSIVE leads in important battle ground states (WI, MN, PA, MI). At this point, all Obama needs to do is win Colorado, Nevada, Indiana, Ohio, Florida, Virginia, or North Carolina. And ONE of those and Obama is the president. And he currently leads by a large amount in VA, and marginally in Nevada, Colorado, Florida and Ohio. Edited October 14, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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