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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 21, 2008 -> 02:12 PM)
The funny thing is that I believe they should have tons of banking experience, and I think Dimon will do a great job. There was a whole lot of people who thought that because Paulsen came from a bank, he shouldn't be in the government, just a few short weeks ago, I am sure they will all of the sudden change their minds though.

Are people really saying that Paulson shouldn't have been SecTreas because he was in banking? That's a little ridiculous.

 

I pointed out a few days ago, his resume wasn't ideal for a number of reasons. But his experience at GS wasn't one of them. Really more the opposite, actually.

 

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Btw, it is stuff like this that makes me proud to be an American and of our process.

 

 

 

McCain praised Obama for his "great skill, energy, and determination. It's not for nothing that he's inspired so many folks in his own party and beyond," he said of his rival, bidding to become the nation's first black president. "I can't wish my opponent luck but I do wish him well."

 

Obama said few Americans had served their country with "the same honor and distinction" as McCain, a former Navy pilot who was a prisoner of war for more than five years in Vietnam.

 

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 21, 2008 -> 03:17 PM)
Are people really saying that Paulson shouldn't have been SecTreas because he was in banking? That's a little ridiculous.

 

I pointed out a few days ago, his resume wasn't ideal for a number of reasons. But his experience at GS wasn't one of them. Really more the opposite, actually.

 

Too much corporate influence supposedly.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 21, 2008 -> 03:20 PM)
Too much corporate influence supposedly.

"corporate" is a big part of America, and having at least some of that knowledge in the executive branch makes a lot of sense.

 

Now, if we are talking about lobbying with money/gifts by corporations, or an administration bent heavily towards a specific industry that needs an overhaul (BushCo and energy), then that could be problematic.

 

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So last night I was watching Campbell Brown on CNN, and they were showing a tape of some people from the McCain campaign out at a rally, confronting some of their fringe-ish supporters. This one guy had a sticker that said "CHANGE" where the "C" was an Islamic crescent and the "G" was a Soviet hammer and sickle, and someone asked him why he didn't support Obama, he said because he's a socialist with an Islamic background. Then a woman says "well I'm a Muslim and I don't appreciate the way you said that" or something or other and the guy tries to argue, but a McCain campaign worker (who was Arab and Muslim) saying I support McCain, and I am Muslim, but you're not representing what the McCain campaign is all about, you don't show any respect for freedom of religion etc. The guy was sitting there looking pretty stupid. Then they had another guy from the campaign (a white guy) saying it's perfectly ok to ask questions about Obama's background, but you have to be respectful in doing it otherwise you're making McCain supporters look bad.

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Most recent poll in Alaska shows McCain with only an 11 point lead. Given that Alaska has been a red state in all the last 10 elections, and that Bush won Alaska by 27 in 2004 (63-36), and their governor is on the GOP ticket, this is pretty amazing. Also, it appears that Obama has actually been gaining significant ground since Palin was added to the ticket - it was McCain +19 in September, now its McCain +11.

 

Weird.

 

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New Poll:

Obama +2 in VA

 

It doesnt seem liek a lot, but here is why this is important. The NBC/Mason-Dixon poll from October 1st is the ONLY poll that didnt show Obama with a lead in VA. Every other poll this month has shown Obama up at least 2. Then it was McCain +3, now it has turned to Obama +2.

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 21, 2008 -> 02:11 PM)
And in this case, someone whose bank actually looked pretty good, relative to the others.

 

 

The only question I would ask him at his confirmation hearing: How much BSC counter-party risk were you(JPM) exposed to at the time of their demise?

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 22, 2008 -> 11:12 AM)
I didn't know I could dislike this woman any more than I already did.

 

Palin: God Will Do The Right Thing On Election Day

The full quote:

“To me, (McCain's sinking Poll numbers) motivates us, makes us work that much harder...And it also strengthens my faith because I know at the end of the day putting this in God’s hands, the right thing for America will be done, at the end of the day on Nov. 4.”

 

Ok, so I'm kinda willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. While she MAY have been implying her and John are God's choice, i'd need to hear the audio to know for sure (voice inflection). I say that because, while I support Obama, when I do pray about the election (not all that often), I always say something to the effect of "may the person whom you feel is the right choice for America win... but I'd prefer Obama". I was raised to believe that you ask God's will be done, not yours.

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 22, 2008 -> 12:19 PM)
The full quote:

“To me, (McCain's sinking Poll numbers) motivates us, makes us work that much harder...And it also strengthens my faith because I know at the end of the day putting this in God’s hands, the right thing for America will be done, at the end of the day on Nov. 4.”

 

Ok, so I'm kinda willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. While she MAY have been implying her and John are God's choice, i'd need to hear the audio to know for sure (voice inflection). I say that because, while I support Obama, when I do pray about the election (not all that often), I always say something to the effect of "may the person whom you feel is the right choice for America win... but I'd prefer Obama". I was raised to believe that you ask God's will be done, not yours.

 

She clearly believes that her and McCain are the "right thing for America," based on the rhetoric of her speeches. I don't think there's any implication that she is God's choice; she explicitly states it (imo).

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QUOTE (Cknolls @ Oct 22, 2008 -> 11:23 AM)
Thoughts?

Even if it's 100% true...how much of the responsibility for his brother's actions/mistakes should we hang on Joe Biden? If my brother gets in trouble with the law, it's not exactly incumbent on me to help make sure that the legal matter gets settled.

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