Steve9347 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Joe Crede. Only player with 10 RBI so far. This is why Kenny and Ozzie are in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 you should really wait before you tell everyone, it ruins the guessing part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 09:00 AM) you should really wait before you tell everyone, it ruins the guessing part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 8, 2008 Author Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 10:00 AM) you should really wait before you tell everyone, it ruins the guessing part. I'm an instant gratification kind of guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 You mean to tell me it's not Josh Fields?! I seriously can't help myself. I think this Crede/Fields thing has become a viral infection and it's spreading like wildfire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 10:10 AM) You mean to tell me it's not Josh Fields?! I seriously can't help myself. I think this Crede/Fields thing has become a viral infection and it's spreading like wildfire... Post #5. Those that had the over 4 posts until Josh is mentioned are winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 10:12 AM) Post #5. Those that had the over 4 posts until Josh is mentioned are winners. But I openly admitted I have a problem! It's a disease! =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Just wait until Crede has a slump. We Fields supporters will have our day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (almagest @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 10:20 AM) Just wait until Crede has a slump. We Fields supporters will have our day! Nothing like having something to look forward to, a Sox player having a slump, that's a fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 (edited) Guess who led baseball in RBI after the first week of the 2006 season. Chris Shelton. That's why you don't overreact to the first week like everybody here is. Edited April 8, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 10:30 AM) Guess who led baseball in RBI after the first week of the 2006 season. Chris Shelton. That's why you don't overreact to the first week like everybody here is. And why I don't overreact to one season. Same principle. I think what it answers is how healthy is Joe and how many people got on base ahead of him. You can't have 10 rbi if you always are hitting with no one on base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 My reason for bias against Joe actually isn't Josh Fields as much as it's I don't like having a 3rd basemen with a .306 career on base and .754 career OPS. I know he's clutch and a great fielder, but you have to overcompensate at other positions offensively to make up for a typical Joe Crede season. Then again, maybe we've done that this year when you look at our lineup, assuming Quentin and Swisher play everyday all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Damn, I thought it was Chris Young, but he only leads the league in HR's. Swisher leads the league in walks with 9. AJ still holding on to the Batting lead at .458. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 10:53 AM) My reason for bias against Joe actually isn't Josh Fields as much as it's I don't like having a 3rd basemen with a .306 career on base and .754 career OPS. I know he's clutch and a great fielder, but you have to overcompensate at other positions offensively to make up for a typical Joe Crede season. Then again, maybe we've done that this year when you look at our lineup, assuming Quentin and Swisher play everyday all year. That certainly is a valid observation. My first thought is a team needs balance, there are dozens of variables, and if they only looked at those, or any two offensive stats, the team more than likely would fail. I think what you are also hinting at, and I would agree, it is easier to buy off on weaker offensive in exchange for defense "up the middle". That's kind of classic baseball thinking. Hide a bad glove, but great "O" in a corner. But I guess we've been so goofy in that regard, with power hitting SSs that I'm just not as worried about it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 08:53 AM) My reason for bias against Joe actually isn't Josh Fields as much as it's I don't like having a 3rd basemen with a .306 career on base and .754 career OPS. I know he's clutch and a great fielder, but you have to overcompensate at other positions offensively to make up for a typical Joe Crede season. Then again, maybe we've done that this year when you look at our lineup, assuming Quentin and Swisher play everyday all year. Joe is only going to be a 7-8-9 hitter in this lineup. The below .800 OPS is not acceptable though. He needs to produce like 2006 or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 (edited) That's part of it, but the other part is that although he's healthy now, Joe is still going to turn 30 in three weeks and has a history of back problems, and thus I think his defensive skills are going to start to wane in due time. Whenever his defense falls to even an average level, he becomes a below value player because he just doesn't hit at an acceptable level for a 3B unless he's fielding great. Edited April 8, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 11:02 AM) That's part of it, but the other part is that although he's healthy now, Joe is still going to turn 30 in three weeks and has a history of back problems, and thus I think his defensive skills are going to start to wane in due time. I have more faith in the surgery. But your prediction certainly is very valid and why, if I was Joe, I'd be looking to make this my meat and potatoes for life contract. Which is why I'm convinced Fields is our starter in 2009. I think Fields has shown his potential to be as good if not better than Crede. But I think a bigger yardstick should be used before annointing him the job for the next 4 or 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 10:22 AM) Nothing like having something to look forward to, a Sox player having a slump, that's a fan Rooting for my favorite team takes a back seat to being right on the internet. Everyone knows that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 If Crede keeps hitting the ball hard, I'm not worried about him (ultimate 'duh' statement). It's when he gets into his 0-4's with a K and 3 popups to the right side when you need to start worrying, because he doesn't walk enough to be able to mask his slumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (almagest @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 11:32 AM) Rooting for my favorite team takes a back seat to being right on the internet. Everyone knows that! This reminds me of this comic: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png Which reminds me of me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Texsox @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 09:49 AM) And why I don't overreact to one season. Same principle. I think what it answers is how healthy is Joe and how many people got on base ahead of him. You can't have 10 rbi if you always are hitting with no one on base. Or if you are Jermaine Dye and paulie is on second. No way to get RBIs there either. Just move him over with a base hit. Edited April 8, 2008 by max power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the People's Champ Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Or if you are Jermaine Dye and paulie is on second. No way to get RBIs there either. Just move him over with a base hit. No way to get an RBI there?? Sure there is, it's called a two run homerun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (the People's Champ @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 12:11 PM) No way to get an RBI there?? Sure there is, it's called a two run homerun. That's probably the only way, cuz Konerko might not score from second on a double. Or he might, but Cox would hold him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 12:30 PM) That's probably the only way, cuz Konerko might not score from second on a double. Or he might, but Cox would hold him up. As opposed to Cora waving him around even if he has absolutly not chance and costing us an out. Pick your poison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 01:33 PM) As opposed to Cora waving him around even if he has absolutly not chance and costing us an out. Pick your poison. Cora would get a guy tagged out on a solo HR if he could find a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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