justBLAZE Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I don't follow the Cubs but I'm sure it's been a while since they lost a series at home? It's payback time this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Cardinals need to fix that bullpen and fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 26, 2008 -> 05:16 PM) Cardinals need to fix that bullpen and fast. When Ryan Franklin is your closer, yes, you should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 QUOTE (tommy @ Jun 26, 2008 -> 05:15 PM) I don't follow the Cubs but I'm sure it's been a while since they lost a series at home? It's payback time this weekend. It sure as hell is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 from baseball prospectus "NL Rumors and Rumblings: There is growing sentiment among baseball people that the Cubs might be relaying the catcher’s signs from the hand-operated scoreboard at Wrigley Field to the hitters. The Cubs are averaging 6.5 runs a game at home and 4.4 on the road." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Anyone hear Steve Stone say that Ron Santo was complaining how the Cubs have more injuries than anyone? Stone quickly responded to Santo that the Cards have 11 pitchers on the DL, and Santo got annoyed with Stone and "walked" away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 27, 2008 -> 09:01 PM) Anyone hear Steve Stone say that Ron Santo was complaining how the Cubs have more injuries than anyone? Stone quickly responded to Santo that the Cards have 11 pitchers on the DL, and Santo got annoyed with Stone and "walked" away. Santo was moaning about Jay Payton's homer that went into the basket the other night as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 27, 2008 -> 09:01 PM) Anyone hear Steve Stone say that Ron Santo was complaining how the Cubs have more injuries than anyone? Stone quickly responded to Santo that the Cards have 11 pitchers on the DL, and Santo got annoyed with Stone and "walked" away. piniella has sure been doing alot of whining about being beat up too...i find it hilarious that so many people in baseball complain about injuries, then end their rant by saying "but we arent gonna complain about injuries, its a part of the game" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 26, 2008 -> 05:51 PM) When Ryan Franklin is your closer, yes, you should. that pitching staff epitomizes how bad the NL is ....its a good NL rotation full of guys pulled off the AL scrap heap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Jun 27, 2008 -> 07:59 PM) from baseball prospectus Maybe some team should keep calling in the "bean ball" sign. Once the cubs figure it out, switch it up and see if the hitter hits the deck too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 27, 2008 -> 09:01 PM) Anyone hear Steve Stone say that Ron Santo was complaining how the Cubs have more injuries than anyone? Stone quickly responded to Santo that the Cards have 11 pitchers on the DL, and Santo got annoyed with Stone and "walked" away. Santo is a perfect representative of your average Cubs fan. Stupid, uninformed, and delusional. Also, it's amazing how all the idiots that said the NL is the better league this year have quited down since interleague started. Outside of the top 3 NL Central teams, that league is awful. This might be the worst the NL has ever been actually. I can't explain why the AL is just always better than the NL these days, but I think the DH is a factor. Either that, or the AL just has way more good (and young) pitching. Edited June 28, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 28, 2008 -> 01:53 AM) Santo is a perfect representative of your average Cubs fan. Stupid, uninformed, and delusional. Also, it's amazing how all the idiots that said the NL is the better league this year have quited down since interleague started. Outside of the top 3 NL Central teams, that league is awful. This might be the worst the NL has ever been actually. I can't explain why the AL is just always better than the NL these days, but I think the DH is a factor. Either that, or the AL just has way more good (and young) pitching. oh its the pitching staffs for sure...even outside the cubs those NL Central teams arent that good....i mean right now with Wainright on the DL the cardinals starting rotation is Braden Looper, Kyle Lohse, Joel Piniero, Todd Wellemeyer and Mitchell Boggs....4 guys they got off the scrap heap and someone ive never heard of brewers outside of sheets are terrible as well....i mean lets be honest, jeff suppan got killed in the AL and is a righty who doesnt throw harder than 88, the NL West is just laughably bad...arizona is back to the norm offensively... NL East is the best NL division IMO....i still dont believe in the marlins, but i think the braves are a solid team and i think the phillies are pretty good...the mets i dont see as having enough pitching behind johan, but still are alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Hopefully STL goes after another SP and some bullpen help at the deadline. Off the top of my head- Brian Fuentes from the Rox comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Esteban Loaiza comes to mind. They would sail away with the division. I'm kidding but I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Jun 28, 2008 -> 09:01 AM) oh its the pitching staffs for sure...even outside the cubs those NL Central teams arent that good....i mean right now with Wainright on the DL the cardinals starting rotation is Braden Looper, Kyle Lohse, Joel Piniero, Todd Wellemeyer and Mitchell Boggs....4 guys they got off the scrap heap and someone ive never heard of brewers outside of sheets are terrible as well....i mean lets be honest, jeff suppan got killed in the AL and is a righty who doesnt throw harder than 88, the NL West is just laughably bad...arizona is back to the norm offensively... NL East is the best NL division IMO....i still dont believe in the marlins, but i think the braves are a solid team and i think the phillies are pretty good...the mets i dont see as having enough pitching behind johan, but still are alright NL lovers will throw batting stats at you, telling you how the NL has leaders in all of the categories. Of course its because NL batters get to face NL pitching on a daily basis and the back ends of those rotations and several of those bullpens can help inflate offensive numbers quite a bit. Compare the pitching staffs of the worst teams in each division. The NL is weak. If we got to play the Pirates as much as the cubs did, we would have a very similar record to theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 28, 2008 -> 08:09 AM) Hopefully STL goes after another SP and some bullpen help at the deadline. Off the top of my head- Brian Fuentes from the Rox comes to mind. Watching the Cards/Royals game yesterday, the Cards announcers were saying they have one of the best minor league systems in baseball. I have trouble believing that but if true, GO GET SABATHIA!!! Edited June 28, 2008 by Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 28, 2008 -> 11:45 AM) Watching the Cards/Royals game yesterday, the Cards announcers were saying they have one of the best minor league systems in baseball. I have trouble believing that but if true, GO GET SABATHIA!!! If they have one of the best minors in the baseball then it came out of nowhere last year. They have a classic ability to find good players that other people wouldn't trade for. They do have the advantage of potentially a carpenter appearance later this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 :fthecubs LETS GO BREW CREW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 28, 2008 -> 11:42 AM) NL lovers will throw batting stats at you, telling you how the NL has leaders in all of the categories. Of course its because NL batters get to face NL pitching on a daily basis and the back ends of those rotations and several of those bullpens can help inflate offensive numbers quite a bit. Compare the pitching staffs of the worst teams in each division. The NL is weak. If we got to play the Pirates as much as the cubs did, we would have a very similar record to theirs. Just throw the Royals record vs the NL back at them. 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Its funny how the tone changes in this thread http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/vie...440&start=0 some great quotes: I read that the Sox draped a big "L" flag over a counter after Friday's game. I try to be objective, but the White Sox have to be #1 in lacking class Does anyone know why we don't use any of their traditions against them in the same manner as them draping the L flag? Because they have no traditions. LMAO, crying about an L flag I guess we could run onto the field and try to beat up the umpire or first base coach. Or we could accuse them of cheating. Those seem to be the only White Sox traditions I can think of. And I've always been amazed the Sox never got in the market of selling the blue "L" flags after the "W" flags starting appearing. For a team that hates the Cubs as much as they do, it seems like a no-brainer. Hmmm, I seem to recall a few incidents of Cubs fans throwing things at Cubs players(as in baseballs), someone running on the field to talk to Bobby Howry, Stealing a hat from Chad Kreuter, fighting Randy Meyers, etc. Dont throw stones in glass houses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 They also have the greatest tradition of all....LOSING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Anyone wanna hunt down these two emos with me to "steal their lunch money"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Wait... they put an L flag up after they won? That's hilarious. The Sox beat the Cubs, but rather than putting up a flag (or doing anything) signifying their victory, they do something pointing out that the other team lost? That really makes me laugh. What a terrible organization. This is coming from a fan of a team that blares the "Go Cubs Go" song and raises the "W" flag after every win at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 (edited) The best part of that is the comment that the Sox have no traditions, which is cute. First of all, the W flag and "Go Cubs Go" are very recent "traditions" which were just made up by Cubs Marketing within the last decade for the sake of making money (W flag merchandise) and getting attention. To call either of those traditions is really dumb. But getting back to us, we (well, Nancy Faust) started the "na na na na, hey, goodbye" song being played at sporting events. You now hear that song being played/sung at games all over the world. Second of all, we also invented the concept of fireworks at the game/after home runs, another thing you see at stadiums all over the place. Oh, and hey, what about the singing the 7th inning stretch thing? They do know Harry Carey started that at Comiskey Park and not Wrigley Field, right? That's right, the tradition that defines their ballpark as much as the ivy, drunks, and losing, was originated by the terrible White Sox. But I guess other than three very significant traditions that you see being copied all over the place, we have none of our own. Right. Edited June 29, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Didnt Harry Carey actually start with the Cardinals? Regardless it is funny that the 3rd team that started doing it is the one who treasures it the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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