Chisoxfn Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 ChiSport: Sweeping Changes By Mario Scalise ChiSPort.com If the Cubs are in a dogfight for the NL Central down the stretch and lose out to the Brewers … the White Sox may deserve some credit/fault. The Cleveland Indians on June 30 were going to start a key 6-game stretch in determining if they would be sellers or not come the July trade season, as they had back-to-back series’ against the first place Sox and second place Twins. Going on a run would put them closer to .500 and give them hope in the AL Central. Losing would make trading soon-to-be free agent CC Sabathia something to think about. The Twins and Sox smashed any hope, as both swept the team that was one of two pre-season favorites to take the central (ironically, the Sox and Twins were no where to be found during these discussions). So with the Indians season now close to done (14 games out and in last place), they’ve gone ahead and have reportedly shipped this trade season’s biggest catch to the Brewers, who are just 3.5 games behind the Cubs in the NL Central. It sucks for the Cubs, but they are still the team to beat in the Central, and seeing how poor the rest of the NL is, the Wild Card will be a nice fallback. Still, it’s never a good thing when an arm like Sabathia joins your division. Last year’s AL Cy Young has been up and down through his career, but he’s spent more time up, racking up quality innings since his rookie year. After a 240-inning ‘07 season, he could slow down come August/September, but that’s not a given, which means the Cubs could have their hands full with a Brewers team that now has a rotation that is equal to, if not better than, the Cubs. Granted Ben Sheets hasn’t hit the DL yet (it’s sure to happen), but with Sabathia now on board, an injury to Sheets wouldn’t hurt as much. As for the Sox and the rest of the AL Central … the fewer the contenders, the easier it is to contend. With the Indians pretty much out, and the Tigers seven games out, the division looks a whole lot more winnable. For those of you that hate the Cubs, the Sox success could really have had a significant impact on the NL Central race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) B&B are reporting that Harden MIGHT be headed to the Cubs. Nothing is confirmed, but Lou did not go to his press conference, from the sound of things, and supposedly Harden is the reason. AL is losing pitchers fast. Edited July 8, 2008 by G&T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) It's done. Harden and Gaudin to the Cubs for Gallagher, Murton, Patterson, and at least one minor leaguer. And maybe somebody else. It sounds like a bad deal by Oakland to me, but then again Billy Beane is smarter than I am. Edited July 8, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 How the ef the Milwaukee end up 5 games back so quickly? Weren't they just in second and only 2 games back? The Cubs, Cards and Brewers are all 6-4 in the last 10 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 02:39 AM) How the ef the Milwaukee end up 5 games back so quickly? Weren't they just in second and only 2 games back? The Cubs, Cards and Brewers are all 6-4 in the last 10 games. The Cards got within 2 games, I don't think the Brewers got within 3.5 recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 For how "good" the Cubs are, the Sox are only 3 games over worse then them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Per the Trib, the Cubs signed Cashner (their first round pick) today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) Lilly lasted 2.2 innings wonder if he is hurt. Score is 4-3 with 2 outs and the bottom of the Red order up. I thought they would let him try and work out of it as he si only at 63 pitches. Wuertz came in walked Ross and got the pitcher out. I thought Lilly could do that. I wonder if Ted and Lou will be fighting later. Edited July 10, 2008 by Jenks Heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 11:44 AM) For how "good" the Cubs are, the Sox are only 3 games over worse then them. And they have played the pirates how many more times than we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 02:23 PM) And they have played the pirates and dodgers and giants and padres and reds how many more times than we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Gotta love Brenley criticizing Brandon Phillips for hot dogging around the bags on his homer. Wonder if he'll say anything about Aramis on his next homer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 The difference between the cubs and the Sox is that the cubs beat the piss out of s*** pitchers and are shut down by good pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Brewers aren't tipping the ole cap to Jorge Da LA Rosa 7 R in 3.2 IP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Fontenot hanging with Soto and DeRosa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 03:28 PM) The difference between the cubs and the Sox is that the cubs beat the piss out of s*** pitchers and are shut down by good pitching. We've also had problems from average, mediocre, and just plain bad pitchers too. If I was able to throw 70 mph with my left hand and get it within a few inches of the strike zone, and then either throw a curveball or a 60 mph changeup, I could 2-hit the Sox. But yeah it does help the Cubs a whole lot that they get to face garbage ass NL pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Dunn just took the ball to the street. 10-5 I think Cubbies might be in for a home loss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (tommy @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 02:22 PM) Dunn just took the ball to the street. 10-5 I think Cubbies might be in for a home loss! Why would you even post this? They ALWAYS come back at home. JINX! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 02:34 PM) Why would you even post this? They ALWAYS come back at home. JINX! 10-7 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 2 unearned runs allow the cubs back into the game. Still do not understand how the cubs got a servicable reliever/swingman in the harden deal. Although Ross just hit his second homerun of the day. cubs are getting bit by the long ball today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Good start Chad Gaudin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Gaudin's first two batters faced: HR and a single Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Darnell Spahn stole second to open first base and Mauer was thenwalked to load the bases in the 10th where as Casilla ended the inning. Not real smart to give Leyland the open base for Mauer. Not cub related but this seems like a hot thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Reds are so clumsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) Fukodome 0-5 with 3 k's Other than OBP Alexi Ramirez is a better player in just about every facet of the game. Reds with 7 homeruns today. Edited July 10, 2008 by Jenks Heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 03:16 PM) Fukodome 0-5 with 3 k's Other than OBP Alexi Ramirez is a better player in just about every facet of the game. Reds with 7 homeruns today. The book is out on Fuk right now, now you have to see if he adjusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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