AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!

[max power]

Defense isn't a major concern, which is why I've said atleast once in this thread and a couple other places that once Richar is healthy and he starts hitting again, they should platoon. If Richar is significantly better, he will start over Uribe. It's pretty reasonable to think about it, honestly.

 

I also think you overrate Richar's defense and underrate Uribe's, but that's merely an opinion.

Yeah a platoon is reasonable. It sounds like some people are against him even doing that and it doesn't make much sense to me.

 

If I do its because uribe is playing second now, not short where offensive suckiness is commonly accepted around the league in exchange for good defense.

[witesoxfan]

If I do its because uribe is playing second now, not short where offensive suckiness is commonly accepted around the league in exchange for good defense.

 

Right; Uribe is still the best player for the job right now, and the defense is helping out. It's hard to even consider benching him in favor of really anyone at this point in time.

[max power]

Right; Uribe is still the best player for the job right now, and the defense is helping out. It's hard to even consider benching him in favor of really anyone at this point in time.

I hope you mean anyone on this team.

[witesoxfan]

I hope you mean anyone on this team.

 

Correct, because Chase Utley or even Brian Roberts would look fantastic.

[RockRaines]

Correct, because Chase Utley or even Brian Roberts would look fantastic.

Brian Roberts being the only attainable 2B of those two. He would add a ridiculous offensive oomph to the lineup. He has a high OBP and can take the extra base and steal some as well. He would effectively move Quentin and Crede down in the order and make them our two weakest hitters, which is ridiculous.

 

 

[Kyyle23]

Brian Roberts being the only attainable 2B of those two. He would add a ridiculous offensive oomph to the lineup. He has a high OBP and can take the extra base and steal some as well. He would effectively move Quentin and Crede down in the order and make them our two weakest hitters, which is ridiculous.

 

And move Swisher to a more effective spot in the lineup for his talents.

[DBAHO]

Yeah I'd love to make a Roberts acquisition, but what would we offer the O's (and we've had this argument over and over again).

 

Uribe is starting and will until Richar comes back for a couple of weeks, but if he is still hitting below .200, no matter how good his defense is, I think we need to make a change still.

 

But anyways, great game by Jose and good to see Jim back on track a little.

[Pants Rowland]

And move Swisher to a more effective spot in the lineup for his talents.

 

So, trade Floyd, Uribe and cash for Roberts after the game?

Edited April 17, 2008 by Pants Rowland

[Princess Dye]

And move Swisher to a more effective spot in the lineup for his talents.

 

I wonder though if Swisher might just show this year that what he's doing now, stolen bases aside, is what he's best at. I mean he was never a gigantic RBI guy at any point. Maybe he's just best at getting on base and making that his main focus.

Edited April 17, 2008 by Princess Dye

[Kyyle23]

So, trade Floyd, Uribe and cash for Roberts after the game?

 

No, yes and yes

[Pants Rowland]

No, yes and yes

 

Not sure that is going to do it for the O's. It is encouraging to see someone turn a Floyd trade idea down, though. Weeks back, many were willing to trade him for a bucket of balls.

[Goober]

f***, they had a night game?

[Kyyle23]

Not sure that is going to do it for the O's. It is encouraging to see someone turn a Floyd trade idea down, though. Weeks back, many were willing to trade him for a bucket of balls.

 

I like Floyd, and I have no problem giving him a chance to succeed or fail.

 

 

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

I don't see much of a difference in defense between richar and uribe at second base. Richar was solid last year, and at times spectacular at 2nd. People seem to forget how well he was turning double plays.

 

Did anyone else's WCIU go crazy and almost give them a seizure during the 7th or 8th inning? That was s***.

 

 

I have the MLB package through my cable provider so I always get the home team feed. Hopefully I don't see too much of WCIU. lol

[Harry Chappas]

Am I crazy to think that the way Broadway is pitching the more teams will think about him as a legitimate #4/#5...........

 

If Crede could be signed for a nice price (I know wishful thinking) Fields, Anderson/Owens and Broadway could garner a really, really useful piece to this teams puzzle come June. After looking at FutureSox the minor league system appears to have some life after all.

[daa84]

Am I crazy to think that the way Broadway is pitching the more teams will think about him as a legitimate #4/#5...........

 

If Crede could be signed for a nice price (I know wishful thinking) Fields, Anderson/Owens and Broadway could garner a really, really useful piece to this teams puzzle come June. After looking at FutureSox the minor league system appears to have some life after all.

i wouldnt be shocked, at least if the sox are in contention if they make a run at harden or blanton, of course harden would have to be healthy, which is very unlikely

Edited April 17, 2008 by daa84

[southsider2k5]

I wonder though if Swisher might just show this year that what he's doing now, stolen bases aside, is what he's best at. I mean he was never a gigantic RBI guy at any point. Maybe he's just best at getting on base and making that his main focus.

 

This is kind of my feeling on the matter. He seems really good at doing this, plus it takes him out of the RISP that he seemed to struggle in the past in. It leaves that to the guys like Crede who seem to feed off of it.

[Balta1701]

i wouldnt be shocked, at least if the sox are in contention if they make a run at harden or blanton, of course harden would have to be healthy, which is very unlikely

The going rate for Blanton last offseason was reportedly "Hughes and Chamberlain".

 

Billy Beane tends to like to keep at least one piece of his rotation around so that there's some stability and something of a more veteran presence when he works in kids. See: Zito being kept despite his trade value when Mulder and Hudson were dealt and Blanton, Harden, and Haren moved in.

[iamshack]

The going rate for Blanton last offseason was reportedly "Hughes and Chamberlain".

 

Billy Beane tends to like to keep at least one piece of his rotation around so that there's some stability and something of a more veteran presence when he works in kids. See: Zito being kept despite his trade value when Mulder and Hudson were dealt and Blanton, Harden, and Haren moved in.

 

Not to be a jerk, but wasn't it Hughes and Kennedy?

 

Even still, that's far too high a price for us to pay.

 

I think we have to see more from our pitching staff before we evaluate what our needs are. Because as of this moment, we have no drastic need for another starter.

[Balta1701]

Not to be a jerk, but wasn't it Hughes and Kennedy?

Heyman at SI wrote a couple weeks ago that it was Hughes and Joba. That basically Beane decided he was willing to move Haren, but wasn't going to start over on his staff entirely, so unless he got an overwhelming offer he wasn't moving Blanton.

[iamshack]

Heyman at SI wrote a couple weeks ago that it was Hughes and Joba. That basically Beane decided he was willing to move Haren, but wasn't going to start over on his staff entirely, so unless he got an overwhelming offer he wasn't moving Blanton.

 

Well, that's basically a psychological ploy by Beane to try and raise other teams' initial offers.

 

Because everyone in baseball knows damn well that Beane isn't getting those two guys, or two guys as highly regarded as those two guys for Joe Blanton.

[Chisoxfn]

Idiotic. "In baseball"

Not worth a response. You could try to make a point with out patronizing.

Juan has the 2nd best arm of any infielder in all of baseball (Furcal has the best). Therefor, if you have an arm a tick below Uribe's than you too would have one of the best arms in baseball (and while I like Richar's tools, he doesn't have Juans arm, he does happen to have an above average arm for a 2nd baseman though).

 

Uribe's arm, by 2nd base standards (now that he's playing there) is ridiculous (not that the arm strenght is that important at 2B with the exception of the rare play up the middle or turning DP's).

[Chisoxfn]

Yeah I'd love to make a Roberts acquisition, but what would we offer the O's (and we've had this argument over and over again).

 

Uribe is starting and will until Richar comes back for a couple of weeks, but if he is still hitting below .200, no matter how good his defense is, I think we need to make a change still.

 

But anyways, great game by Jose and good to see Jim back on track a little.

At this point, I really would be hard pressed trading Broadway because regardless of the early start there are still concerns around the middle of the rotation (I want to see them keep it up for a couple months and I think they are capable but again, show me). Plus you never know when injuries are going to pop up and you need another guy in that rotation.

 

That and I happen to think Broadway has the ability to be a rock solid #3 guy in the rotation for a very long time (he will never be an ace, but he'll be a real solid league average guy and those type of players are very valuable given the current open market price you'd have to pay to get that type of starting pitching).

 

Now if you can give up McCulloch or even an Egbert and someone else to get Roberts, I'd be in.

[max power]

Juan has the 2nd best arm of any infielder in all of baseball (Furcal has the best). Therefor, if you have an arm a tick below Uribe's than you too would have one of the best arms in baseball (and while I like Richar's tools, he doesn't have Juans arm, he does happen to have an above average arm for a 2nd baseman though).

 

Uribe's arm, by 2nd base standards (now that he's playing there) is ridiculous (not that the arm strenght is that important at 2B with the exception of the rare play up the middle or turning DP's).

It is ridiculous. I agree. Like I said though he is playing second base. From what I have seen this season, he uses the full strength of his arm once every three games or so. That's why its only a notch.