Earthquake in Central Illinois

[Balta1701]

Balta, all the quakes here are intraplate earthquakes, right?

By definition, yes, since there is no major plate boundary anywhere near you. However, the story is more complicated than that...as especially in continental areas, the simple way to say it is that some plates are less rigid than others. For an alternate example, only 85% or so of the motion between the North American and Pacific plate is taken up by the San Andreas, a good chunk of it is taken up by deformation within the continent stretching a few hundred kilometers inland of the Fault. These would be defined as intraplate earthquakes as well, even if the driving force for them comes from a nearby plate margin.

[farmteam]

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

 

I took a class on Earthquakes last semester, and we went and looked at a fault (Mt. Carmel maybe? Does that sound right?), and it had a dip slip of a foot or so, I think. Is that a lot, or no?

[Balta1701]

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

 

I took a class on Earthquakes last semester, and we went and looked at a fault (Mt. Carmel maybe? Does that sound right?), and it had a dip slip of a foot or so, I think. Is that a lot, or no?

I may very well have taken a field trip in structural geology to the same fault. I think it's pretty much the only one in Indiana. No, a foot of displacement along a fault is not a lot. Most of the ones that drive even moderately sized earthquakes have displacement on the order of miles overall (because they've broken and moved more than once).

 

Most of the faults that produce these large quakes in that area are fairly deeply buried and don't outcrop well at the surface, even though some of their effects (Hills, changes in dip, etc.) may be.

[Texsox]

I didn't feel it, but my wife felt the earth move last night.

I hate it when she brags about me like that . . .

[ChWRoCk2]

where are you living? I am in the NW burbs of Chicago and didnt feel anything.

Ditto

 

I'm near you and didn't feel a thing.

[farmteam]

I may very well have taken a field trip in structural geology to the same fault. I think it's pretty much the only one in Indiana. No, a foot of displacement along a fault is not a lot. Most of the ones that drive even moderately sized earthquakes have displacement on the order of miles overall (because they've broken and moved more than once).

 

Most of the faults that produce these large quakes in that area are fairly deeply buried and don't outcrop well at the surface, even though some of their effects (Hills, changes in dip, etc.) may be.

 

Well, the one we went to was on 446 (a little south of Lake Monroe), in a stretch where they apparently blasted through the rock to build the road.

[whitesoxfan101]

It's hard to interpret who did and didn't feel the quake once you get as far away as Northern Illinois. You could put two people in the same apartment at the same time and one might feel the quake and the other not feel it, it's that hard to discern in a case like this. Anyways, this is about as strong an earthquake as you can get on this fault line (Wabash Valley Zone), the fault line of more concern is the New Madrid zone in extreme SE Missouri/NE Arkansas/NW Tennessee. Odds are, that one will one day cause a quake that does major damage in St. Louis/Memphis/both.

Edited April 18, 2008 by whitesoxfan101

[DrunkBomber]

To think everyone laughed at me last week when I purchased Midwest Earthquake/Cougar insurance.

[whitesoxfan101]

To think everyone laughed at me last week when I purchased Midwest Earthquake/Cougar insurance.

 

If you plan to continue living in Elmhurst as your profile says you are from, than that insurance very likely isn't necessary to have. If you are planning to move south, even as close as central Illinois or Indiana (Champaign/Indianapolis and south especially), you start getting into a gray area/area where it might be smart to have just in case.

Edited April 18, 2008 by whitesoxfan101

[DrunkBomber]

If you plan to continue living in Elmhurst as your profile says you are from, than that insurance very likely isn't necessary to have. If you are planning to move south, even as close as central Illinois or Indiana (Champaign/Indianapolis and south especially), you start getting into a gray area/area where it might be smart to have just in case.

I still live in Elmhurst, but Im not gonna chance it. I got a pretty solid deal on my Cougar/Earthquake insurance so Im at least gonna keep it for the rest of the year. Thanks Safeauto

[knightni]

Tough luck guys.

 

 

I've heard that it's only valid if the cougars cause the earthquakes or if the earthquake spawns cougar attacks.

[DrunkBomber]

Tough luck guys.

 

 

I've heard that it's only valid if the cougars cause the earthquakes or if the earthquake spawns cougar attacks.

It hasnt been proven that those arent the causes yet.

[YASNY]

The New Madrid fault is a disaster of exponential proportions just waiting to happen. If the 1811-12 events recurred today, I believe the death toll would be hundreds of thousands, if not millions. Probably including me, as I live about 7 miles down river from the dam on the Tennessee River that created Kentucky Lake. I have read eyewitness accounts of the 1811-12 events and to be honest, it was mind boggling. The course of the Mississippi River was changed and for a while, the direction of the current was reversed. This change in direction caused the creation of Reelfoot Lake in west Tennessee. There were instances of ground surfaces changed by as much as 10 feet or more. Ponds turned into hills covered with fish flopping around. There were what I think of as sand geysers. Sand spewing up from fissures in the earth, reaching heights that today would be refered to as several stories. The effects of these events were noted in Michigan, the Carolinas and as has been mentioned, rang church bells in Boston. Windows were broken as far away as Louisville and Cincinnati.

 

St. Louis and Memphis would be devastated to unimaginable proportions, today. Considering what a similar event would do to the infrastructure in the heart of nation, the economic effects of such a disaster would be felt from coast to coast, to say nothing of the nightmare of a humanitarian nature that would need to be addressed for hundreds of miles around the epicenter.

[Heads22]

Wait, I thought you were our last living connection to those quakes, Yas...

[southsider2k5]

I know I am not the only one who enjoys some solid whackjob conspiracy...

 

http://rockthetruth.blogspot.com/2008/04/m...shoot-down.html

 

"Nuclear Fueled Explosion Reported In US Midwest"

 

"by: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers April 18, 2008

 

Reports from 3rd Army Headquarters of the Russian Space Command, located in Solnechnogorsk (Moscow oblast), are reporting today that a ‘nuclear fueled’ explosion has occurred in the United States region of Illinois after the downing of an American B-52 Bomber by, presumed, other elements of the US Air Force operating in that region.

 

So powerful was the explosion reported from this downed American Nuclear Bomber that Western propaganda media sources are reporting the effects of a 5.2 to 5.4 magnitude earthquake in that region, but to which the most accurate description of a nuclear type blast was reported by the Bloomberg News Service and who stated in their article: "You could hear a roaring sound and the whole motel shook, waking up the guests,'' Vibha Ambelal, manager of the Super 8 Motel in Mount Carmel, Illinois, near the epicenter, said in a telephone interview."

 

These reports further state that this was the second attempt by a US B-52 Nuclear Bomber to penetrate the North American Command Air Defenses surrounding the dissident United States Scott Air Force Base, located in Illinois, from which these aircraft seeking to bomb Iranian atomic facilities are based at.

 

On Tuesday, April 15th, American citizens to the Indiana region immediately east of Illinois reported numerous ‘booms’ and ‘flashes’ in their night skies which some attributed to fireball meteorites crashing into the atmosphere, but which the United States Air Force reported was caused by F-16 jet fighters ‘sonic booms’ and their use of ‘military flares’.

 

These reports, however, state that this April 15th incident turned back the first abortive attempt by dissident American Forces to secret their plundered nuclear weapons out of that country for their intended use against Iran.

 

The ‘trigger’ to these latest desperate attempts to embroil the World in Total War arose from the US Defense Secretaries ordering of a full accounting of all American Nuclear Weapons on March 28th after the discovery of that an unspecified number of them were ‘missing’.

 

The first attempt to use these ‘missing’ nuclear weapons against Iran we had previously reported on in our April 5th report titled "US Nuclear B-1 Bomber On Iran ‘Attack Run’ Shot Down" and which occurred in the Middle Eastern Nation of Qatar.

 

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman further report that the American War Leaders were warned this past week by the British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, and by Pope Benedict XVI, both of whom traveled to the United States this week, against the attempts by the US to escalate their conflicts into another World War, but which by these latest events these War Leaders appear not to have listened to.

 

As we have previously reported too, the United States believes it has no option other than Total World War as their economy continues imploding while at the same time fuel prices are rising to catastrophic levels and more food riots are being reported the World over, all of which when combined signal the collapse of the American Empire on a scale not seen in since the collapse of the former Soviet Union on June 12, 1990.

 

It remains, without doubt, that the people living within the United States will not be allowed to know the full evidence of these events, and their imminent destruction, except by the means of dissident sources of information such as ours. But, and most strangely, the New York Times, and a publication not known for the reporting of dissident news, appears to have changed its course with its April 6th article titled "Duck and Cover: It’s the New Survivalism", and which said:

 

"THE traditional face of survivalism is that of a shaggy loner in camouflage, holed up in a cabin in the wilderness and surrounded by cases of canned goods and ammunition.

 

It is not that of Barton M. Biggs, the former chief global strategist at Morgan Stanley. Yet in Mr. Biggs’s new book, “Wealth, War and Wisdom,” he says people should “assume the possibility of a breakdown of the civilized infrastructure.”

 

“Your safe haven must be self-sufficient and capable of growing some kind of food,” Mr. Biggs writes. “It should be well-stocked with seed, fertilizer, canned food, wine, medicine, clothes, etc. Think Swiss Family Robinson. Even in America and Europe there could be moments of riot and rebellion when law and order temporarily completely breaks down.”

 

Survivalism, it seems, is not just for survivalists anymore."

 

This advice by the New York Times that the time has begun for Americans to begin their preparations for survival echo those of the giant US Banking concern Wells Fargo, that Britain’s Guardian News Service has recently reported warned these people: "Scott Anderson, chief economist at Wells Fargo, is equally pessimistic, describing the bullish views of some market players as "bordering on delusional", but which as their life savings continue to disappear they continue not to heed.

 

For the final outcome of these events we, perhaps, will have little warning, but, and surely anyone with open eyes can see, the storm clouds gathering on the horizon.

 

[link to www.whatdoesitmean.com]"

[knightni]

I wonder how they justify the aftershocks...

[Texsox]

And how much that our government and media tells us about Russia would make them laugh?

[Flash Tizzle]

I wonder how they justify the aftershocks...

Or the absence of radiation.

 

[southsider2k5]

Or the absence of radiation.

 

That was my favorite part, not only can the US government stop rogue forces from nuclear attacks on other countries, but we can clean up radiation without anyone knowing or being affected by it. Take that commies!