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Scranton Wilkes Barre (10-5) @ Charlotte (8-6)

Kei Igawa (1-2, 1.72) vs. Rob Bell (1-1, 7.20)

6:15 CT

 

Mississippi (2-12) @ Birmingham (9-5)

Dustin Evans (0-2, 9.82) vs. Jack Egbert (-)

7:05 CT

Game Notes

 

Frederick (9-4) @ Winston-Salem (4-6)

Jake Renshaw (2-0, 3.29) vs. Michael Dubee (0-0, 6.30)

6:00 CT

 

Kannapolis (7-8) at Augusta (8-7)

Charlie Shirek (0-1, 0.54) vs. Madison Bumgarner (1-1, 7.88)

6:05 CT

Game Notes

warthogs_game_notes_4_18.pdf

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Charlotte

Might not want to check this one. It's not pretty. We're losing 8-1 in the 4th.

 

Birmingham

Cole Armstrong hit a 3-run homer in the 2nd to give Egbert some run support.

 

Winston-Salem

Big 6-run 3rd inning for Kanny in support of Dubee. CJ Retherford got a double and a single in the same inning!!!

 

Kannapolis

Charlie Shirek throws another BEAUTY.

7 innings; 4 hits; 7 strikeouts; no walks.

Lowers his season ERA to 0.38

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Mississippi Top 1st

 

* Carl Loadenthal singles on a ground ball to left fielder Stefan Gartrell.

* Diory Hernandez grounds into double play, shortstop Robert Valido to second baseman Robert Hudson to first baseman Micah Schnurstein. Carl Loadenthal out at 2nd.

* Greg Creek strikes out swinging.

 

Mississippi Top 2nd

 

* Kala Kaaihue singles on a ground ball to center fielder David Cook.

* Mark Jurich singles on a ground ball to right fielder Miguel Negron. Kala Kaaihue to 2nd.

* Derrick Arnold grounds out, pitcher Jack Egbert to first baseman Micah Schnurstein. Kala Kaaihue to 3rd. Mark Jurich to 2nd.

* Matt Young grounds out, second baseman Robert Hudson to first baseman Micah Schnurstein. Kala Kaaihue scores. Mark Jurich to 3rd.

* J. C. Boscan grounds out, second baseman Robert Hudson to first baseman Micah Schnurstein.

 

Yup. Jack Egbert's back.

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QUOTE (scenario @ Apr 18, 2008 -> 08:58 PM)
Chris Getz starting to put it together at Charlotte.

 

3 for 4 tonight. Has a 7 game hitting streak going raising his BA over .300 on the season.

with the options we have at 2b i dont think he'll get a shot this year, but i wouldnt mind seeing him make a run at that 2b spot...he would fit into this team very well i think with his ability to command the strike zone

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QUOTE (danman31 @ Apr 18, 2008 -> 09:10 PM)
Shirek is dominating low-A ball like a major conference college pitcher should.

 

Dominating A-ball just the way a pitcher selected in the 23rd round should, eh?

 

He's right at the average age for pitchers in the league.

 

Where he's been shouldn't make a difference at this point.

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QUOTE (scenario @ Apr 18, 2008 -> 10:16 PM)
Dominating A-ball just the way a pitcher selected in the 23rd round should, eh?

 

He's right at the average age for pitchers in the league.

 

Where he's been shouldn't make a difference at this point.

What if some of his time was spent in the California Penal League

 

Righthander Charlie Shirek is an even bigger enigma at Nebraska. He has the best pure stuff on the staff, with a fastball that has reached 96 mph and features good sink and run, as well as a solid slider and changeup at times. But his delivery is shaky and he hasn't fooled hitters, getting touched for a 6.39 ERA entering the NCAA regionals. After losing his spot in the Cornhuskers' weekend rotation in mid-April, Shirek was arrested. Police charged him with vandalizing a bike and a car and said his blood-alcohol level at the time of his arrest was .158. He was briefly suspended and has pitched just three times since rejoining the team. He strained his oblique muscle in the Big 12 Conference tournament.

 

I'm pretty sure Shirek was a draft eligible sophomore, even though he's now 22. He wasn't a 23rd round talent, much like Kevin Patterson wasn't a 24th round talent, or Jordan Danks a 19th(?). The Sox, as they (along with every other team in baseball) are known to do, used a number of their second day pick on guys who were first-day talents in an effort to entice a few of them to sign for far above slot. Shirek was the only one who signed (for 5th round money, 6 figure signing bonus).

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Police charged him with vandalizing a bike and a car and said his blood-alcohol level at the time of his arrest was .158.

 

Vandalizing a bike? That made me LOL, as I'm trying to picture exactly how you vandalize a bike (or why you'd want to, for that matter).

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My point was that there is alot of talent all about the same age as Shirek in the Carolina League.

 

I don't think his experience at Nebraska explains why he's dominating this year.

 

The reason he's dominating is because he's throwing an incredible number of strikes (22K's/3BB's) and not walking people.

 

Nothing in his backround suggested that would happen.

 

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/S/C...ie-Shirek.shtml

 

Hopefully it's the result of development that will allow him to continue to harness the powerful arm he has.

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Either way, it's pleasing to see Shriek have the start that he has had. He keeps this up, he should be in W-S pretty soon.

 

And he fits the mould of pitching prospects the Sox brass have tried to draft over the past season or 2. Guys with good fastballs (with a good sink on them) and average other stuff that they hold they can develop over time.

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QUOTE (CWSGuy406 @ Apr 18, 2008 -> 10:53 PM)
Vandalizing a bike? That made me LOL, as I'm trying to picture exactly how you vandalize a bike (or why you'd want to, for that matter).

Get yourself a BAC of .158 and I'm sure you can think of a reason or two.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 18, 2008 -> 10:45 PM)
Get yourself a BAC of .158 and I'm sure you can think of a reason or two.

 

LOL. Yeah. Amazing the things that sound like good ideas when your drunk.

 

A bad day on the mound... a high BAC... and a baseball bat in your hands.

 

Sounds like a recipe for a night in jail.

 

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QUOTE (Gene Honda Civic @ Apr 18, 2008 -> 10:48 PM)
What if some of his time was spent in the California Penal League

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure Shirek was a draft eligible sophomore, even though he's now 22. He wasn't a 23rd round talent, much like Kevin Patterson wasn't a 24th round talent, or Jordan Danks a 19th(?). The Sox, as they (along with every other team in baseball) are known to do, used a number of their second day pick on guys who were first-day talents in an effort to entice a few of them to sign for far above slot. Shirek was the only one who signed (for 5th round money, 6 figure signing bonus).

that must be from 07 right? if it was from 06 Joba was on that nebraska staff and i doubt shireks stuff is better than his

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QUOTE (scenario @ Apr 18, 2008 -> 11:19 PM)
My point was that there is alot of talent all about the same age as Shirek in the Carolina League.

 

I don't think his experience at Nebraska explains why he's dominating this year.

 

The reason he's dominating is because he's throwing an incredible number of strikes (22K's/3BB's) and not walking people.

 

Nothing in his backround suggested that would happen.

 

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/S/C...ie-Shirek.shtml

 

Hopefully it's the result of development that will allow him to continue to harness the powerful arm he has.

He's not in the Carolina League. He's in the South Atlantic League. I would argue that major conference college baseball is on par with Low-A ball in a lot of ways. There isn't the same depth in college, but the best of the best dominate A ball right out of school. In his 2nd season he should be doing well in Low A or he truly is a non-prospect.

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QUOTE (danman31 @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 12:06 PM)
He's not in the Carolina League. He's in the South Atlantic League. I would argue that major conference college baseball is on par with Low-A ball in a lot of ways. There isn't the same depth in college, but the best of the best dominate A ball right out of school. In his 2nd season he should be doing well in Low A or he truly is a non-prospect.

 

Yeah, I meant South Atlantic League, not Carolina. And no doubt, a talented player should perform well in low-A ball if he's really a prospect. But to dominate the way he has... come on. Plus, this really is his first season. He was a late signee and only pitched 6 innings in 2007.

 

And if turns out he is a 'best of the best' type player... and we got him in the 23rd round... even if he was paid over slot... Kudos to the Sox for a coup.

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QUOTE (danman31 @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 10:06 AM)
He's not in the Carolina League. He's in the South Atlantic League. I would argue that major conference college baseball is on par with Low-A ball in a lot of ways. There isn't the same depth in college, but the best of the best dominate A ball right out of school. In his 2nd season he should be doing well in Low A or he truly is a non-prospect.

Since the big 12 is a pretty strong baseball conference I would attend to agree with you. But unless you play in a baseball powerhouse and play against pretty good competition I tend to believe college ball is a bit worse than Low A.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 04:37 PM)
Since the big 12 is a pretty strong baseball conference I would attend to agree with you. But unless you play in a baseball powerhouse and play against pretty good competition I tend to believe college ball is a bit worse than Low A.

Agree. The best players are better than what you'll see in Low A, but there isn't anywhere near the depth.

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