max power Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 All of those fans came to see carl crawford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 03:22 PM) You have to wonder why Tampa has held on to him for so long. They're not competing for the AL East title in the next few years, and by the time they can possibly have a shot, they'll lose him to free agency. I think that a lot of people would disagree with your statement that this team won't be competing within the next few years. The correctness of that statement depends on how quickly some of their young guys develop. With the number of top draft picks already making up their roster, I wouldn't put anything past this team if they're coached well Also, I think the D-Rays would have moved him already had they gotten an offer they were happy with, but they're setting the price deservedly high for a guy who gives you Crawford's numbers, and they probably also think that his value isn't going to drop until he has 1 year left on his contract unless he gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Just got home. Why is AJ sitting against a righty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:24 AM) I think that a lot of people would disagree with your statement that this team won't be competing within the next few years. The correctness of that statement depends on how quickly some of their young guys develop. Also, I think the D-Rays would have moved him already had they gotten an offer they were happy with, but they're setting the price deservedly high for a guy who gives you Crawford's numbers, and they probably also think that his value isn't going to drop until he has 1 year left on his contract unless he gets hurt. Their young pitchers are still a far way off from being legit MLB starters (see Niemann last night). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Maybe they think the rays suck so much that we don't need aj? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Probably not a good pitcher for Ramirez to have to face. Sonnanstine was very good against righty hitters last year, but he's been brutal in limited innings so far this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 03:26 PM) Their young pitchers are still a far way off from being legit MLB starters (see Niemann last night). The guys you'd figure would be their top 2 are currently on the DL (Kazmir and Garza). That's going to hold any team back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 06:25 PM) Just got home. Why is AJ sitting against a righty? Early start tomorrow?!?....I don't get it. I'm more puzzled why Juan's ass isn't sitting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 11:27 PM) The guys you'd figure would be their top 2 are currently on the DL (Kazmir and Garza). That's going to hold any team back. Exactly, you give those two, Price, Niemann, Wade Davis, Edwin Jackson about two years, and you might have something. Doesn't Crawford have two years left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 03:27 PM) The guys you'd figure would be their top 2 are currently on the DL (Kazmir and Garza). That's going to hold any team back. Oh, and David Price is expected to hit the big leagues before the end of the season. So whatever their starting 5 is now, next year, replace the 3 worst ones with Kazmir, garza, and Price. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 05:26 PM) Their young pitchers are still a far way off from being legit MLB starters (see Niemann last night). One would think they could deal Crawford for a pretty darn good young starter (Lincicum and Cain, of course, come to mind) and put together a rotation of Kazmir/Garza (when they become healthy) Shields/Sonnanstine or Jackson and have a better chance of competing than with Crawford. What's killed them is Baldelli never being able to stay healthy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 I still think the Delmon Young trade was awful for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 06:30 PM) One would think they could deal Crawford for a pretty darn good young starter (Lincicum and Cain, of course, come to mind) and put together a rotation of Kazmir/Garza (when they become healthy) Shields/Sonnanstine or Jackson and have a better chance of competing than with Crawford. What's killed them is Baldelli never being able to stay healthy... They should have dumped him when they had the chance....their bad. Now he's out indefinately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Hawk complaining about these umps early and often. Maybe he should complain that Buehrle is up with everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 05:29 PM) Exactly, you give those two, Price, Niemann, Wade Davis, Edwin Jackson about two years, and you might have something. Doesn't Crawford have two years left? Crawford has this year, and then club options for 09' and 10' that will most certainly be picked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Nice job by Toby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Nice DP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Gomes looks fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 What the f***! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Threw the f***in ball way too early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 What the hell! Cabrera couldn't have played that worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Cabrera needed to get the hell out of the way, not catch the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metz Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 06:29 PM) Exactly, you give those two, Price, Niemann, Wade Davis, Edwin Jackson about two years, and you might have something. Doesn't Crawford have two years left? They also have the lefty Jacob McGee down in the minors .. they have a hell of a rotation if potential was guarenteed also Crawford has 2 years left, but then the Rays have club options on him, I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 OC F'd that one up....after you give it up...go back up and GTF outta the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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