Annoying thought... Iguchi

[Hawkfan]

ARamRod eats iguchi for breakfast

[max power]

ARamRod eats iguchi for breakfast

Uribe eats an entire pig, three loves of white bread and nine dozen eggs for breakfast.

[Y2HH]

Uribe eats an entire pig, three loves of white bread and nine dozen eggs for breakfast.

 

If Uribe hits his usual ~20HR, ~70RBI, ~55Runs, and plays the defense he will usually play...I'd be perfectly happy, and I wouldn't care what he eats or drinks, either.

 

People are stuck on Uribe's avg...so what, he hardly gets on base and doesn't hit a lot, so let's ignore the fact he still puts up some *VERY* decent numbers and is a power threat at the NINTH spot in our order.

 

Yea, let's get rid of that for someone that wouldn't even come close to that power production.

 

Let's get rid of Crede while were at it...oh, and Thome, too.

 

Sometimes you people drive me F-ING batty.

Edited April 21, 2008 by Y2HH

[elrockinMT]

How perfect would he be on this ballclub right now. Let him do more of the free swinging he did in Japan out of the 9 hole?

 

Seriously, he'd look damn good.

 

 

I liked Iguchi

[max power]

If Uribe hits his usual ~20HR, ~70RBI, ~55Runs, and plays the defense he will usually play...I'd be perfectly happy, and I wouldn't care what he eats or drinks, either.

 

People are stuck on Uribe's avg...so what, he hardly gets on base and doesn't hit a lot, so let's ignore the fact he still puts up some *VERY* decent numbers and is a power threat at the NINTH spot in our order.

 

Yea, let's get rid of that for someone that wouldn't even come close to that power production.

 

Let's get rid of Crede while were at it...oh, and Thome, too.

 

Sometimes you people drive me F-ING batty.

The thing is, I have no confidence in him doing that. Also, iguchi put up similar numbers to those, but with a .340 OBP.

 

I'm not stuck on his average as much as his OBP and TERRIBLE situational hitting. As its been said in other threads, OBP is more important than slugging, 1.8 times as important by some statisticians estimates.

 

Crede? Thome? Those guys are another class. What do they have to do with anything?

 

Anyway, it was just a joke, because he gained weight, then sucked at the plate. Not sure why that drives you batty.

Edited April 21, 2008 by max power

[Chisoxfn]

Uribe has been one of the better guys on the club over the past couple of years when it comes to moving runners over and hitting sacrifice flies or bringing guys in with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs. It may be surprising to some, but last I looked at the stats, that was the case.

 

He just gives up a whole lot of ab's. And no, I'm not saying he has a high average with runners in scoring position, but he isn't a bad hitter up with runners on as he tends to focus more and usually hits the ball hard and to the point where it gets the run in or the runner over.

[max power]

Obviously he is better at hitting for average with men on, or else he wouldn't put up RBI totals. I wouldn't say he one of the better guys on the club. Also his clutch stats are terrible. He hits the best when up by 4 or more runs. I don't know where to find any stats on moving runners over or sac flys(no shocker to me that he is good at that the way he pops out all the time) but I'd love to see them.

 

One more thing, this is about iguchi, and he is better in every stat I mentioned.

Edited April 21, 2008 by max power

[heirdog]

So when is Owens coming up? We could use his speed on the base paths. I think the BA ship has sailed...great spring and now 14 ABs, with 2 hits and 6 Ks. Too bad Ryan Sweeney has that nice average in Oakland. When is Richar going to replace Uribe? Uribe is still a free swinger with a nice glove...Richar can do that. I think we trade Crede's glove for Fields' bat. Crede has 3 throwing errors this year...maybe the back affecting his throw causing a tail. Fields has a cannon. Boy, Lucy or Phillips in for Toby Hall sure would be a shot in the arm for this team. Oh wait, this thread was about Iguchi and what we should have done in July 2007. Who did we get for that guy any way, Michael Dubee? He hasn't been so bad in the minors, right?

[Chisoxfn]

Obviously he better at hitting for average with men on, or else he wouldn't put up RBI totals. I wouldn't say he one of the better guys on the club. Also his clutch stats are terrible. He hits the best when up by 4 or more runs. I don't know where to find any stats on moving runners over or sac flys(no shocker to me that he is good at that the way he pops out all the time) but I'd love to see them.

I saw it on a telecast a couple weeks back. I don't know if it was a Sox telecast or what, but it was showing the best players on the Sox and I was surprised to see Uribe way up there and he actually led the squad in certain categories.

[Chisoxfn]

So when is Owens coming up? We could use his speed on the base paths. I think the BA ship has sailed...great spring and now 14 ABs, with 2 hits and 6 Ks. Too bad Ryan Sweeney has that nice average in Oakland. When is Richar going to replace Uribe? Uribe is still a free swinger with a nice glove...Richar can do that. I think we trade Crede's glove for Fields' bat. Crede has 3 throwing errors this year...maybe the back affecting his throw causing a tail. Fields has a cannon. Boy, Lucy or Phillips in for Toby Hall sure would be a shot in the arm for this team. Oh wait, this thread was about Iguchi and what we should have done in July 2007. Who did we get for that guy any way, Michael Dubee? He hasn't been so bad in the minors, right?

BA is in a tough spot becuase like Ramirez he needs AB's. It is hard for a young player to come off the bench with limited playing time. Hell it is hard for most veterans to do it. Anderson has a high maintenance swing which needs consistent PT and it means he will never be an effective bench player (unless of course it is for defensive purposes).

 

I'd actually be happiest with Owens replacing Anderson as the backup (we aren't using BA as a defensive replacement anyway so why not have Owens speed on the bench (pinch run for Konerko in certain late game situations and than have Swish slide to 1B with Owens in CF and I know Owens isn't that great over in CF, but still). Bourgouis replaces the Cuban Missile.

 

Ramirez/BA get lots of playing time and in the case anyone gets hurt they can come up (plus Ramirez can get practice at 2B and him and Richar can compete for who will eventually replace Uribe).

[Vance Law]

Funny things is, if Ozzie would man up and tell everyone he's doing what's in the best interests of the team than OCab would move to 2nd and Uribe would go back to SS, where you can actually tolerate a sub .700 OPS from a guy with a laser beam and good range.

I agreed totally with your thoughts above on Richar over Iguchi, but I don't understand this one. The suggestion you make has no effect on the team's offense, and most would agree, makes the defense worse as Cabreras's a better shortstop.

 

[witesoxfan]

If Uribe hits his usual ~20HR, ~70RBI, ~55Runs, and plays the defense he will usually play...I'd be perfectly happy, and I wouldn't care what he eats or drinks, either.

 

People are stuck on Uribe's avg...so what, he hardly gets on base and doesn't hit a lot, so let's ignore the fact he still puts up some *VERY* decent numbers and is a power threat at the NINTH spot in our order.

 

Yea, let's get rid of that for someone that wouldn't even come close to that power production.

 

Let's get rid of Crede while were at it...oh, and Thome, too.

 

Sometimes you people drive me F-ING batty.

 

Well now you're comparing Thome to Uribe; that's batty.

 

Uribe will give you a good IsoSLG...that doesn't do much for me when he's getting on at a .280 clip and hitting .230. Sure, it has it's perks, but it's best saved for a superutility player.

 

I think the best case scenario this team could see is Richar coming up and producing well (.750ish OPS would be good), Alexei being sent down and getting regular playing time, and Uribe being a very good backup infielder at 3B, 2B, and SS.

[RME JICO]

From Rotoworld:

 

The slumping Tadahito Iguchi has been dropped to the eighth spot in Monday's lineup.

Paul McAnulty is getting the start in left field and batting second. Iguchi is 0-for-21 in his last six games, though he does have seven walks during that time. He hasn't had an extra-base hit in two weeks, and he's driven in three runs in 75 at-bats. In other words, he hasn't been very good.

 

Compared with Uribe's defense, it would seem at this point that Iguchi would not be much of an upgrade.

Edited April 21, 2008 by RME JICO

[Y2HH]

Well now you're comparing Thome to Uribe; that's batty.

 

Uribe will give you a good IsoSLG...that doesn't do much for me when he's getting on at a .280 clip and hitting .230. Sure, it has it's perks, but it's best saved for a superutility player.

 

I think the best case scenario this team could see is Richar coming up and producing well (.750ish OPS would be good), Alexei being sent down and getting regular playing time, and Uribe being a very good backup infielder at 3B, 2B, and SS.

 

In no way am I or did I compare Thome OR Crede to Uribe. I was, however, pointing out the sheer insanity I see posted once in a while around here.

 

And I still think Uribes defense makes up for his underwhelming OBP/AVG, especially considering his power numbers/RBI's the last 4 consecutive years. I'm simply saying I can deal with it and I'd rather have Uribe than Iguchi.

[witesoxfan]

In no way am I or did I compare Thome OR Crede to Uribe. I was, however, pointing out the sheer insanity I see posted once in a while around here.

 

And I still think Uribes defense makes up for his underwhelming OBP/AVG, especially considering his power numbers/RBI's the last 4 consecutive years. I'm simply saying I can deal with it and I'd rather have Uribe than Iguchi.

 

Whole-heartedly agree with the last sentence of this. I think Richar will be a better option in the long-run, and perhaps in the short-run as well, but for now, Uribe at 2B (or atleast Orlando Cabrera's prescence) is well worth it.