Balta1701 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 22, 2008 -> 05:02 PM) Ohio exit polls showed her winning 54-44 and she won 54-44 Today they show her winning 51.64-47.78. That's Clinton plus almost 4. And as I said earlier, exit polls have been typically within 1.5%. Well, I'm not trying to Jinx it, but I think that everyone would read a 52-48 result as essentially playing Taps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 22, 2008 -> 06:05 PM) Well, I'm not trying to Jinx it, but I think that everyone would read a 52-48 result as essentially playing Taps. ESPECIALLY if he ties or wins more delegates. Her whole "press to the end" is based on delegates. If she cant take away at LEAST 7 here, she as a real hard road to climb even WITH superdelegate support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 22, 2008 -> 05:13 PM) ESPECIALLY if he ties or wins more delegates. Her whole "press to the end" is based on delegates. If she cant take away at LEAST 7 here, she as a real hard road to climb even WITH superdelegate support. She needs an AWFUL lot more than 7. She needed a big score here to close the gap. Obama can simply split races through the end of June, and by then he'd have it in the bag. She needed double digits to at least make some of the metrics start going her way, especially with North Carolina likely to offset a chunk of this one and Indiana and Oregon looking like decent Obama territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 22, 2008 -> 07:26 PM) She needs an AWFUL lot more than 7. She needed a big score here to close the gap. Obama can simply split races through the end of June, and by then he'd have it in the bag. She needed double digits to at least make some of the metrics start going her way, especially with North Carolina likely to offset a chunk of this one and Indiana and Oregon looking like decent Obama territory. I agree 100%, but 7+ makes her "viable" to many including herself. A LOSS of delegates is a HUGE blow. I have said since TX and OH that this was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 22, 2008 -> 07:05 PM) I think that everyone would read a 52-48 result as essentially playing Taps. In normal person reality, yes. not in ClintonLand. This is a resounding win to them. She carried another major state. Therefor Obama is unelectable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Fox calls it for Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) MSNBC calls it for Clinton. but i still think this is a 5 point game. According to CNN's website, they haven't projected a winner yet. Edited April 23, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 12:48 AM) Fox calls it for Clinton. I love how they're acting like this is such a shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 What's the point of saying it's too close to call at 8:15 but then calling it when 1% of the votes are in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 22, 2008 -> 07:00 PM) What's the point of saying it's too close to call at 8:15 but then calling it when 1% of the votes are in? I guess the computers don't think it was THAT close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 CNN calls it for Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 SHOCKED. Er I mean... SHOCKED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 As long as it stays single digit percentage, Obama should be ok, correct? I suck at this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Best line of the night from a Clinton supporter... "look at the shear grit of the candidate. look how she has fought." What grit?? She was up 20 six weeks ago and is going to win by just 4-6 points. Yea, look at that grit that cant hold a lead and might have not even had THIS big of a lead if it werent for lapel pin-gate and bitter-gate. She LOST PA, even if she won it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 22, 2008 -> 09:09 PM) As long as it stays single digit percentage, Obama should be ok, correct? I suck at this stuff. Looks like once the PA suburbs are in, Clinton will win by around 5% or so. Maybe up to 7%. This is far froma huge win for her. not a game change. it freezes people like it did after TX and OH. but nothing major. not a game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 I think she won because Chelsea went gay bar hoping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 If Obama holds at 8 points back it's kind of a status quo night I guess. Not close enough for Obama to run around claiming he exceeded expectations but he's still got a huge delegate lead, and while Clinton is way behind in delegates this was a good victory for her, but not a surprisingly good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 CNN has Hillary up 8% pts with 67% of the vote in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2008 -> 09:23 PM) CNN has Hillary up 8% pts with 67% of the vote in. A lot of the area around Philly is not in yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 still, i think 8 points will stick. I'm so sick of this dem. race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 22, 2008 -> 09:33 PM) still, i think 8 points will stick. I'm so sick of this dem. race. Montgomery and Chester County still have a lot to report. I think it'll drop to 6. There was projected to be between 2 million to 2.5 million who voted. That means with 76% of PRECINCTS in, 348,570-848,570 votes have yet to be counted. Edited April 23, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 22, 2008 -> 10:33 PM) still, i think 8 points will stick. I'm so sick of this dem. race. word... May 6 will be the knockout blow. There's no possible way to spin that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Up to 10 pct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Is Obama going to spin this with how much he closed the gap in the last month or so? Didn't the polls show her about 20 points up at one point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 CNN seems to think it's going to be a double digit win now. If the Sox go on to lose, this was quite a s***ty night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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