Gregory Pratt Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 12:17 PM) What I get a kick out of is the traditionally red states out here, like the Dakotas, that just seem overwhelmingly Obama, despite the fact he's generally seen as more liberal that HillDog. Those states will be overwhelmingly Republican states in the general, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 You know what's funny? After all that posturing, and campaigning, and spent money and all the rest, Hillary only made a really small dent in Obama's lead. Honestly, I don't see how she can win the nomination except by hanging on until the convention and then using her connections to totally screw Obama in some back room deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 That's the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 02:57 PM) Those states will be overwhelmingly Republican states in the general, either way. Not all. IA, CO, NM, MT and maybe SD, NE, KS and ID are in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 It's not unreasonable to see MT or KS in play for Obama, and because NE isn't a winner take all electoral college, I could see him peeling one electoral vote off there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (NUKE @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 03:00 PM) You know what's funny? After all that posturing, and campaigning, and spent money and all the rest, Hillary only made a really small dent in Obama's lead. Honestly, I don't see how she can win the nomination except by hanging on until the convention and then using her connections to totally screw Obama in some back room deal. Early reports are that Obama outspent Clinton something like 3-1 in PA, and STILL lost by almost 10 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (NUKE @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 03:00 PM) You know what's funny? After all that posturing, and campaigning, and spent money and all the rest, Hillary only made a really small dent in Obama's lead. Honestly, I don't see how she can win the nomination except by hanging on until the convention and then using her connections to totally screw Obama in some back room deal. I think she is trying to screw Obama in this election so she can run and win cleanly in 2012 against McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 06:39 PM) Early reports are that Obama outspent Clinton something like 3-1 in PA, and STILL lost by almost 10 points. Or, that could be seen as he cut significantly into a deficit where he was once down by over 20 points in a state where the demographics don't favor him... depends on how you want to look at it. Every state where Obama campaigns directly against Clinton, he always goes up, she always goes down, regardless of whether he wins or loses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 03:39 PM) Early reports are that Obama outspent Clinton something like 3-1 in PA, and STILL lost by almost 10 points. Another side of that token is that when Obama is on the ticket in November...he's already spent $10 million or so in a key swing state. He has voter rolls, ads already run, donors, organization, etc. It's all active already. McCain has to start from scratch in this state (And despite being the nominee, he only took 72% of the vote in that state, FWIW). And the fact that Obama has run so much advertising there already may well mute the effect of whatever ad some outside group runs that McCain half denounces in the fall. The Dem Primary turnout yesterday was something like 80% of Kerry's General election turnout in 04. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:16 PM) (And despite being the nominee, he only took 72% of the vote in that state, FWIW). Ron Paul supporters are hardcore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 05:42 PM) Ron Paul supporters are hardcore. Huckabee pulled in 10% as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 03:50 PM) Maybe. I'm just going off of anecdotal evidence here. Our public school system is pretty abysmal. I think it depends on where you are. I went to private school pre-8th grade and public high school. i thought both were very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) Also, Iowa has historically had one of the most educated populations in the country, and those folks tend to favor Obama heavily. This is a fascinating chart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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