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When the weather heats up and it starts to get nice out, more idiots and low-lives come out. If you think it's bad now, it will probably be even worse when it gets really nice out.

Police were on the scene on the 7600 block of South Rhodes Avenue, where there were "multiple fatalities," according to police News Affairs Officer Marcel Bright. The shooting took place inside a residence, he said.

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When the weather heats up and it starts to get nice out, more idiots and low-lives come out. If you think it's bad now, it will probably be even worse when it gets really nice out.

What part of Chicago do you live in?

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The planets favorite Gov is offering the National Guard to Richie.... That can't look good for the Olympic Committee.

 

http://www.nbc5.com/news/16901117/detail.html

 

Blagojevich Says Chicago Is 'Out Of Control'

Mayor Unaware Of Plan; Welcomes Partnership

 

CHICAGO -- As Gov. Rod Blagojevich on Wednesday signed a new law that will put in place tougher penalties for selling guns to minors, he also announced he's got a new idea to help combat the violence that Chicago is experiencing: he's talking to the Illinois State Police and the National Guard to see if they could help.

 

The Chicago Sun-Times depicted Blagojevich as the "new sheriff in town" Thursday morning in its coverage of the governor's plan to form an "elite tactical team" to help the city fight crime.

 

"Violent crime in the city of Chicago is out of control," Blagojevich said at the bill signing ceremony. "I'm offering resources of the state to the city to work in a constructive way with Mayor Daley to do everything we can possibly do to help stop this violence," said the governor.

 

The summer of 2008 will be remembered as especially violent. Blagojevich said there's been a child shot nearly every day since June 26, with 29 Chicago Public School students shot since last fall.

 

"Twenty-eight of those kids are African-American and Latino. Hard to imagine that that would be acceptable if that were, in fact, the case inother parts of the city or in a middle-class suburb somewhere," he said. "Something is wrong, and this violence has to stop."

 

Bringing in state troopers -- even National Guard helicopters to high-crime areas -- is still very much in the planning stages.

 

"It might be able to free up some resources that the Chicago police uses for capital needs, to be able, to maybe to, hire more police officers, or possibly ask some to come out of retirement, to put them into these violent zones, hot zones, where, clearly, I think, part of the challenge is that gangbangers outnumber police officers five to one," Blagojevich said.

 

The governor said Chicago Mayor Richard Daley hasn't asked for help, but Blagojevich said he'll call the mayor once he has some concrete suggestions about what help he can provide. He didn't have many specifics, but he said it's more likely that state police will be brought in than the National Guard.

 

In fact, Daley's office said the mayor did not know anything about Blagojevich's comments and did not know he was going to make them.

 

"The mayor welcomes partnerships, not just on this issue but on a variety of issues," said spokeswoman Jody Kawada. "Beyond that, it is difficult to comment because we don't have any facts."

 

And police department spokeswoman Monique Bond said they learned of the comments after Blagojevich made them as well, and said it was too soon to comment.

 

But Bond took issue with the governor's contention that crime is "out of control" in Chicago, pointing out that if the current murder rate holds in the city, 2008 may end with fewer than 500 homicides and that it is expected to be one of the least deadly years in the city in the last 40 years.

 

On Wednesday, Superintendent Jody Weis was grilled by members of a city council committee, who complained both about rising crime and statistics that suggested to them that the police department wasn't doing enough to stop it.

 

They also come as the governor tries to find support for a massive statewide construction program that would be funded by expanded casino gambling. So far, Daley has refused to go along because he objects to the amount Blagojevich wants to charge Chicago to run a downtown casino.

 

Blagojevich raised that issue as he discussed the possibility of state aid with Chicago's crime problem.

 

"We need help in that legislative process and the mayor could be a big help in this in getting the House Democratic leadership to pass that big capital program or versions of it," the governor said.

 

Blagojevich's offer, whether or not it comes to anything, also puts him in the position of trying to help on an issue dominating the news in Chicago.

 

Blagojevich said it is far more likely that state troopers would be used than guardsmen. In fact, his office moved quickly after the governor's comments to stress in a news release that Blagojevich was not considering bringing in National Guard troops to the city.

 

"The only way the National Guard would be involved, if they are involved, is with the use of tactical helicopters that are currently used in narcotics operations," spokesman Lucio Guerrero said in a prepared statement.

 

Blagojevich had few details, but suggested that one possibility would be to assign state troopers to areas of the city with lower crime rates, freeing Chicago police officers for areas where there is more crime.

 

"Maybe we can play a role in providing more manpower so that the mayor doesn't have to make that choice between taking a police from, let's say the North Side, and putting that police officer on the street on the South Side," he said.

 

He also suggested that retired Chicago police officers and state troopers could be hired on a temporary basis to help out during the summer months when the violent crime rate typically climbs.

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The planets favorite Gov is offering the National Guard to Richie.... That can't look good for the Olympic Committee.

 

http://www.nbc5.com/news/16901117/detail.html

What an ass.

 

First, crime is bad in Chicago, but its still well below what it was 10 years ago, 15 or 20 (WELL below 20 years ago). The new police supt. just started and hasn't even gotten to implement his changes yet. This is purely Rod trying to make himself look good in any way possible - everyone loves a tough guy.

 

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It's too bad we don't have video of Daley's reaction to this. Essentially Blago is just slapping him in the face and telling him he can't control his own city.

 

In the bigger picture though, what are MORE cops going to do? People shooting each other isn't going to stop simply because a police car drives past once more every hour than it did two weeks ago. I'm pretty sure if you were looking to gun down someone, knowing that police presence has increased, you just wouldn't do it in broad daylight in the middle of a public street. You'd do it like all of these killings seem to be - in back alleys, in back yards, in poor underdeveloped areas where no one lives...

 

Blago has to be the dumbest person ever to have held such a high position in government.

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Blago has to be the dumbest person ever to have held such a high position in government.

It's funny to me that he managed to succeed someone who was sentenced to prison for corruption, and be even worse, and have people hate him more.

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It's too bad we don't have video of Daley's reaction to this. Essentially Blago is just slapping him in the face and telling him he can't control his own city.

 

In the bigger picture though, what are MORE cops going to do? People shooting each other isn't going to stop simply because a police car drives past once more every hour than it did two weeks ago. I'm pretty sure if you were looking to gun down someone, knowing that police presence has increased, you just wouldn't do it in broad daylight in the middle of a public street. You'd do it like all of these killings seem to be - in back alleys, in back yards, in poor underdeveloped areas where no one lives...

 

Blago has to be the dumbest person ever to have held such a high position in government.

1. Part of the reason crime is going back up a bit is the economy. This is a manifest reality that show itself time and time again. Worse times, more crime. And the police can only address a small part of the problems.

 

2. More cops isn't the answer - it almost never is. But for the portion of this that can be addressed by the police, they do need different tactics. And Weis has outlined a whole series of those types of things that he is implementing. The problem he's running into though, is that the guys with the stripes (sargeants, lieutenants) are the ones that need to implement his plans. And a lot of them are older officers who don't like change. Dealing with that fact will be the biggest challenge for Weis. Even if he is successful, which would be impressive, its going to take time.

 

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