BigSqwert Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 The LA Times is reporting that Hillary Clinton is nearly $31 million in debt. The news comes off a release from her campaign Tuesday night that she has raised $22 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 20, 2008 -> 08:17 PM) My last name has been read by thousands of people. But it doesn't mean he wants it connected to him. Exactly. I am just trying to protect the kids privacy. If he wants to post it, that is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 21, 2008 -> 07:17 AM) The LA Times is reporting that Hillary Clinton is nearly $31 million in debt. The news comes off a release from her campaign Tuesday night that she has raised $22 million. In contrast Obama has $37.3 million on hand with $9.2 million tucked away for the general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 21, 2008 -> 07:17 AM) The LA Times is reporting that Hillary Clinton is nearly $31 million in debt. The news comes off a release from her campaign Tuesday night that she has raised $22 million. :unsure: I dont want her anywhere near our national budgeting process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 21, 2008 -> 08:00 AM) :unsure: I dont want her anywhere near our national budgeting process. She's already part of it as a member of Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 21, 2008 -> 07:48 AM) She's already part of it as a member of Congress. she doesnt hold the ultimate power though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 21, 2008 -> 07:50 AM) she doesnt hold the ultimate power though Neither does the President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 21, 2008 -> 07:53 AM) Neither does the President. veto... yes, there are checks and balances, but you get my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) Pop. Vote Update: Minus FL and MI- Obama +452,136 Minus MI- Obama +157,364 All States- Clinton +170,945 In the all states count, Obama would need only 28.76% of the votes in MI to tie Clinton to date. If he got the "uncommitted" votes, he'd be up 95,144. Another Note: To date, Edwards has roughly 992,946 million votes. Edited May 21, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Also, Oregon's votes have not been completed. I'd expect a small bump for Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 hmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Oregon Exit Polls: Obama Handily Beat Hillary Among Whites, No-College, Less-Than-$50,000 Voters The Oregon exit polls lend a bit more weight to the theory that Barack Obama's real problem is more with Appalachia than it is with working class whites in general, as the Hillary campaign has repeatedly suggested. Obama beat Hillary by sizable margins of white voters except those 60 and older. he beat Hillary among voters with no college degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Seriosuly, Obama - Edwards is a Kickass ticket... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 21, 2008 -> 11:23 AM) Seriosuly, Obama - Edwards is a Kickass ticket... I will not vote for Obama if Edwards is the VP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 21, 2008 -> 10:58 AM) I will not vote for Obama if Edwards is the VP. why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Gallup is no longer stressing the Obama / CLinton Matchup in their polls. It is focusing on Obama / McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 From Greg Sargent at TPM Okay, here's some more detail on Hillary's fundraising numbers for April. The $22 million they announced raising for last month doesn't tell the story. The bottom line: The Hillary campaign is in the red right now. Here's the rundown. The Hillary campaign confirms to me that when you factor in Hillary's expenditures, right now they have $6.7 million in cash on hand for use in the primary. Meanwhile, Camp Hillary's current filing shows that they're over $19 million in debt. So it would appear that the Hillary campaign is over $11 million in the red right now. It's not quite that simple, though. That's because, as the Hillary campaign points out, she has lent the campaign roughly $11.4 million which she doesn't necessarily have to pay back right now. So, interpreting these numbers in the most charitable way possible for her, the campaign's debts -- not including her own loans -- are roughly $8 million. Since that's more than the cash-on-hand she has for the primary, that means that the campaign is at best a couple million in the red. And again, that's not including the loans to herself. By contrast, the Obama campaign has over $37 million on hand for the primary. So that's where we are. Not a pretty picture for her. And this is certainly not something that will help make any kind of case to super-dels, to put it mildly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 21, 2008 -> 12:00 PM) why? He takes every policy issue I have with Obama to a new level. The administration would be far, far too left economically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 If Clinton is supposedly just winding things down, ready to concede, she certainly isn't talking like it. After her Kentucky victory speech, she gave another where she compares her fight to get MI and FL counted to such monumental efforts as getting blacks and women the right to vote. I really think she is still in denial - she thinks she can still win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 21, 2008 -> 03:24 PM) He takes every policy issue I have with Obama to a new level. The administration would be far, far too left economically. Obama doesn't really know s*** about economics... and I'm hoping he contrasts himself with someone who does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 21, 2008 -> 11:58 AM) I will not vote for Obama if Edwards is the VP. Still not asking for Richardson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 21, 2008 -> 04:32 PM) Obama doesn't really know s*** about economics... and I'm hoping he contrasts himself with someone who does. I feel Edwards knows even less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 21, 2008 -> 10:32 PM) Obama doesn't really know s*** about economics... and I'm hoping he contrasts himself with someone who does. My question is... do any of the candidates? I'd rather the candidate be honest and admit to a level of ignorance on the topic, but be able to surround themselves with people who do know what they're doing (in that specific area)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 QUOTE (CWSGuy406 @ May 21, 2008 -> 09:48 PM) My question is... do any of the candidates? I'd rather the candidate be honest and admit to a level of ignorance on the topic, but be able to surround themselves with people who do know what they're doing (in that specific area)... I really don't think so. So debating over who is going to lead us through the recession is pretty much a moot point to me. This is why rarely chime in with anything meaningful on what we should do about taxes. Everyone is sticking to generic, not anything practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 (edited) Over exaggeration of the decade.... Hillary Clinton compared her effort to seat Florida and Michigan delegates to epic American struggles, including those to free the slaves and win the right to vote for blacks and women.[...] "This work to extend the franchise to all of our citizens is a core mission of the modern Democratic party," she said. "From signing the Voting Rights Act and fighting racial discrimination at the ballot box to lowering the voting age so those old enough to fight and die in war would have the right to choose their commander in chief, to fighting for multi-lingual ballots so you can make your voice heard no matter what language you speak." Edited May 22, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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