Kalapse Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 11:49 AM) I wouldnt call a career .264 hitter one of the worst hitters the game has ever seen. He was no dynamo with the stick, but thats a little bit of embellishment. In comparison Juan makes Ozzie look like A-rod Career .625 OPS for Oz, try to find a couple more 10 year regulars from the live ball era with a lower career OPS. It's not easy. He may not have been a terrible baseball player but damn does he have some ugly numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 12:47 PM) True. Ozzie was, like Juan, one of the worst hitters the game has ever seen, but was great (for a period anyways) at defense. Maybe he just feels bad for him, and sympathizes, who knows? Are you kidding me? Juan makes Guillen look like Ted Williams at the plate. Uribe is completely hapless at the plate. Guillen was not. Guillen was a sound baseball player, that, at the very least, held his own at the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 01:49 PM) I wouldnt call a career .264 hitter one of the worst hitters the game has ever seen. He was no dynamo with the stick, but thats a little bit of embellishment. In comparison Juan makes Ozzie look like A-rod I don't know, I remember reading an article from one of those SABR guys that analyzed the stats for all the hitters and compiled a list of the 25 worst hitters of all time. Ozzie was on there, as was Uribe and Neifi Perez. Those are the only three I can remember. I am trying ot find it, but can't seem to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 11:49 AM) In comparison Juan makes Ozzie look like A-rod How? Uribe hits more homers a season than Ozzie hit in his career, and has a higher lifetime OBP. Ozzie's lifetime OBP is.287. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxWS05 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 At least Ozzie could bunt and move runners along if he had to. Uribe is useless when it comes to producing those types of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Dang, I won't be able to watch the game with a delay. I have places to go this afternoon and evening. Go Sox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (SoxWS05 @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 12:57 PM) At least Ozzie could bunt and move runners along if he had to. Uribe is useless when it comes to producing those types of things. So bad he's in the top 4 or 5 in the league in sacrifices the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 12:56 PM) How? Uribe hits more homers a season than Ozzie hit in his career, and has a higher lifetime OBP. Ozzie's lifetime OBP is.287. In regards to being a better hitter overall. Ozzie may not have been a slugger, but he got his hits here and there. Sorry, i know you disagree, but Juan sucks as a hitter. Ozzie was consistent in his .250 average, Juan has steadily declined from his 2004 heyday Edited April 28, 2008 by kyyle23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxWS05 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 So bad he's in the top 4 or 5 in the league in sacrifices the past few years. Impossible. Uribe can't do anything right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Well, Ozzie has a career 68 OPS+. Thats unbelievably horrible. In comparison, Uribe's is 79. Ozzie never put up an OPS+ over 85... 15 points under the average. Juan has atleast put up one at 111. Ozzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 01:00 PM) In regards to being a better hitter overall. Ozzie may not have been a slugger, but he got his hits here and there Then explain to me how Uribe has reached base more often in his career? Did he wake up in the middle of the night and break into where they store the stats and change them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 01:01 PM) Then explain to me how Uribe has reached base more often in his career? Did he wake up in the middle of the night and break into where they store the stats and change them? I am not explaining anything to you. You love Juan, i dont. I think him and hhis .170 average belong elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 11:58 AM) Dang, I won't be able to watch the game with a delay. I have places to go this afternoon and evening. Go Sox! It's called a radio...get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 More: Ozzie never had a season with more walks than K's. Juan is 50 walks short of Ozzies career total in 8 less seasons. I will give it to Ozzie though, he didn't strike out much. He just sucked at everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Rain Delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 02:03 PM) Rain Delay How long? Have they said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 ozzie was a worse player...but in no way does that justify the fact that uribe is a horrendous hitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 When Ozzie played, he at least appeared to look like he knew what he was doing. He certainly didn't have corkscrew swings at the same clip that Uribe does. Uribe thinks he's Carlos Lee, but he's more like Pinky Lee at the plate. I bet he would be a .270 hitter if he wasn't swinging for Milwaukee every time up. he's strong enough that if he just puts the bat on the ball, he could get a good hard single. Instead, he's trying to hit a roof shot at old Comiskey...20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 12:02 PM) More: Ozzie never had a season with more walks than K's. Juan is 50 walks short of Ozzies career total in 8 less seasons. I will give it to Ozzie though, he didn't strike out much. He just sucked at everything else. I've been told time and time again on this board a strikeout is no worse than any other out. I guess that applies to everyone but Uribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 01:01 PM) Then explain to me how Uribe has reached base more often in his career? Did he wake up in the middle of the night and break into where they store the stats and change them? Is it lonely as the only member of the Juan Uribe fan club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 01:05 PM) I've been told time and time again on this board a strikeout is no worse than any other out. I guess that applies to everyone but Uribe. I swear its like you have never seen him attempt to hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 28, 2008 -> 01:05 PM) I've been told time and time again on this board a strikeout is no worse than any other out. I guess that applies to everyone but Uribe. 2 years of mid .230ish BA, and a .170BA this year with a horrible OBP say he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokimar Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 40-45 minute delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxWS05 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Looks to be about 30-45 minute delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Damnit, I don't want a delay.. im ready to go.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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