Owens and Richar

[Lemon_44]

What's the status of those guys and their injuries? I would like to see them added to the roster if healthy. Richar up and Ramirez down to minors so he can get some AB's and get better adjusted. He hit well in ST but seems to be having trouble now that it counts. Uribe can stick around,play defense and spot start.

 

Also, i would rather have Owens in the lineup with Dye out. I'm not complaining about Anderson but i would have rather Owens leading off and drop Swisher into Dye's spot while he's out. Plus, Owens and Richar give the team the added speed element. The team is winning ,so you don't want to mess around too much but i think those 2 transctions would help out the team in the long run.

[lostfan]

Owens is not injured, he's hitting .294 at Charlotte (almost a .400 OBP too).

 

Nothing is wrong with this lineup except for not having Richar, so until he comes back from his rehab assignment in a few weeks no changes are needed.

Edited April 28, 2008 by lostfan

[Balta1701]

Last I heard June was the new expected date for Danny.

[Kalapse]

Dye is supposed to play tomorrow. No room at the Inn for slap hitting speedsters.

[southsidehawkeye]

Last I heard June was the new expected date for Danny.

 

 

I thought he was expected to start rehabbing in May sometime, has something changed?

[WCSox]

I thought he was expected to start rehabbing in May sometime, has something changed?

 

I'm assuming Balta means that Richar will be doing a rehab stint in May and be in Chicago sometime in June.

 

[witesoxfan]

Owens should stay as far away from the 25 man as possible.

[Soxpranos]

Owens is not injured, he's hitting .294 at Charlotte (almost a .400 OBP too).

 

Nothing is wrong with this lineup except for not having Richar, so until he comes back from his rehab assignment in a few weeks no changes are needed.

 

Are you kidding, we have one of the worst 2,3 and 4 hitters combos in baseball. Swisher should be protecting Quentin in the order or vice versa. Sox really need a leadoff man and a Number 2 guy that can get the job done.

[lostfan]

Are you kidding, we have one of the worst 2,3 and 4 hitters combos in baseball. Swisher should be protecting Quentin in the order or vice versa. Sox really need a leadoff man and a Number 2 guy that can get the job done.

I mean, are you going to send Cabrera, Thome, and Konerko down to AAA and call up someone else? Probably not. I probably should've said 25-man roster.

[witesoxfan]

Are you kidding, we have one of the worst 2,3 and 4 hitters combos in baseball. Swisher should be protecting Quentin in the order or vice versa. Sox really need a leadoff man and a Number 2 guy that can get the job done.

 

Jesus players slump and you are ready to call them some of the worst. You don't actually believe that Konerko and Thome are going to hit this poor all year, do you?

 

I don't care how you feel about Cabrera...he could very easily hit .250 this year and I wouldn't be surprised, but you seem to be just brushing the accolades of Konerko and Thome off like they are nothing.

[Soxpranos]

Why don't we run down the list of worse 2-3-4 hitters.

 

Baltimore-Check

Blue Jays-Maybe

Royals-Check

Twins-Check

A's-Check

Mariners-Check

Marlins-Check

Nats-Check

Pirates-Check

Cards-Check

Padres-Check

Dodgers-Maybe

Giants-Check

 

Really, one of the worst?

 

Nice research

 

[Soxpranos]

Jesus players slump and you are ready to call them some of the worst. You don't actually believe that Konerko and Thome are going to hit this poor all year, do you?

 

I don't care how you feel about Cabrera...he could very easily hit .250 this year and I wouldn't be surprised, but you seem to be just brushing the accolades of Konerko and Thome off like they are nothing.

 

So what are you saying, we have one of the best?

[witesoxfan]

So what are you saying, we have one of the best?

 

Yeah...combined they should put up an .875 OPS. Right now, it's performing badly. By the end of the year, I imagine it will be in the top 10 in the majors...atleast the 3-4-5.

[Soxpranos]

Yeah...combined they should put up an .875 OPS. Right now, it's performing badly. By the end of the year, I imagine it will be in the top 10 in the majors...atleast the 3-4-5.

 

K, hope your right.

[Kalapse]

For as poorly as Thome has played this season he's still sporting an .842 OPS which ranks him #1 among designated hitters. (incredibly down year for the position)

 

And looking at Konerko's numbers he's sporting an .811 OPS which is the 5th best for 1B in the AL and only .037 points lower than his career mark.

 

I guess if your #3 and #4 hitters are going to suck you'd want them to suck like this.

[WilliamTell]

Konerko's been in a groove lately, add Dye and our 2,3,4,5 definately isn't the worst. It's at least in the top half of the league.

[witesoxfan]

For as poorly as Thome has played this season he's still sporting an .842 OPS which ranks him #1 among designated hitters. (incredibly down year for the position)

 

And looking at Konerko's numbers he's sporting an .811 OPS which is the 5th best for 1B in the AL and only .037 points lower than his career mark.

 

I guess if your #3 and #4 hitters are going to suck you'd want them to suck like this.

 

It says something not only about what we have come to expect out of those 2 but also the entire philosophy of the offense that those two can have OPS's over .800 while hitting .229 and .214 respectively. Given that, if either or both get up to even .260, they'll be fantastic. I don't expect Konerko to maintain an IsoOBP of 136 all season, but I wouldn't put 150 out of the realm of possibility for Thome.

 

Honestly, if just one of those two starts hitting quite well, I envision the offense getting real hot real fast.

[Lemon_44]

In my opinion,Owens can do alot more for this team than Brian Anderson can. He can lead off when someone needs a day off, he can steal a base, he can BUNT,and he can hit for a higher average. Anderson brings a better arm and more power. If Owens wouldn't have gotten hurt he would've made the 25 man roster. I don't see what Anderson has done, and why all the sudden admiration for him,to keep Owens down and himself up. The Sox may just be waiting for Owens to show he's going to be 100% for the long haul. You don't want to call him up and then he gets dinged again right away.

[eickevinmorris]

Nah, I think they just realize Owens f***ing sucks.

[witesoxfan]

In my opinion,Owens can do alot more for this team than Brian Anderson can. He can lead off when someone needs a day off, he can steal a base, he can BUNT,and he can hit for a higher average. Anderson brings a better arm and more power. If Owens wouldn't have gotten hurt he would've made the 25 man roster. I don't see what Anderson has done, and why all the sudden admiration for him,to keep Owens down and himself up. The Sox may just be waiting for Owens to show he's going to be 100% for the long haul. You don't want to call him up and then he gets dinged again right away.

 

Brian Anderson is also a much, much better defensive player...like gold glove caliber defensively. Pablo Ozuna can hit for average, steal a base, leadoff, and bunt too. Jerry Owens really doesn't do anything for this team at all.

 

I hope the only time Owens is called up is in the event of an injury to an outfielder, and even then he should be riding the pine.

[WCSox]

Brian Anderson is also a much, much better defensive player...like gold glove caliber defensively. Pablo Ozuna can hit for average, steal a base, leadoff, and bunt too. Jerry Owens really doesn't do anything for this team at all.

 

I hope the only time Owens is called up is in the event of an injury to an outfielder, and even then he should be riding the pine.

 

I find it interesting how Uribe is trashed here because he can't hit, yet Anderson is supposedly a better option at CF because of his defense. The guy whiffed on a freaking bunt yesterday. Anderson is essentially the OF incarnation of Uribe.

 

Owens has hit reasonably well at the ML level and stole 32 bases in just 93 games last year. If he can get his OBP up to .340 or so (a modest 0.016 increase over last year), he's a legitimate leadoff hitter. And the Sox could really use a proficient base-stealer. Anderson had better start hitting soon, because Owens can bring a heck of a lot more to the table than him at this point.

 

Edited April 29, 2008 by WCSox

[Steve9347]

I find it interesting how Uribe is trashed here because he can't hit, yet Anderson is supposedly a better option at CF because of his defense. The guy whiffed on a freaking bunt yesterday. Anderson is essentially the OF incarnation of Uribe.

 

Owens has hit reasonably well at the ML level and stole 32 bases in just 93 games last year. If he can get his OBP up to .340 or so (a modest 0.016 increase over last year), he's a legitimate leadoff hitter. And the Sox could really use a proficient base-stealer. Anderson had better start hitting soon, because Owens can bring a heck of a lot more to the table than him at this point.

I think the big difference is Anderson is a backup and we don't have to suffer through it for as many at bats.

[witesoxfan]

He also has limited major league experience; he may or may not be progressing, but from my eyes, it appears he is. Regardless, it's hard to determine when he only has 487 career PAs. 3473 career PAs...that's almost 3000 more than Anderson.

 

There is justification as to why Anderson has more leash than Uribe.

[Kalapse]

I think the big difference is Anderson is a backup and we don't have to suffer through it for as many at bats.

Brian also has over 2700 fewer career ABs than Uribe (Brian only has 442 career ABs.) Juan is the proven commodity at this point while Brian is the 26 year old former first round pick with the potential to be a Torii Hunter type player if it someday clicks for him. If Brian ever fulfills his potential he'll without a doubt be a more valuable baseball player than Owens (in my opinion at least) it's just a matter of getting his ABs and making the most of the opportunity. He played well over the final 3 games of the Baltimore series, hopefully he can build on that.

[eickevinmorris]

I don't understand how anyone could think Owens hit reasonably well. He was abysmal.