Balta1701 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 QUOTE (southsidehawkeye @ May 1, 2008 -> 06:42 PM) Sent in mine. I found this one kinda difficult, I couldn't really compare a great player from one sport to a great player in another and come out really decided on who was better. It is amazing when you sit down and think about it how many greats have passed through our city... my list could have easily gone much much longer but had to stop myself at 20. Well, #1 pretty much ought to be unanimous. The thing I had a problem with was just being too young. I can go by guys I've seen perform in the last 15-20 years or so that I can vaguely remember, but if you start talking early 80's and before, I had nothing to go by but the stats. Kind of made it hard in some places, like how do I deal with guys like Aparicio, how do I weigh him against someone more recent if I didn't see him to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 1, 2008 -> 09:44 PM) Well, #1 pretty much ought to be unanimous. Yep, they built an entire new league around Bobby Hull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 2, 2008 Author Share Posted May 2, 2008 It won't be unanimous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ May 1, 2008 -> 11:09 PM) It won't be unanimous. it really should be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 QUOTE (rangercal @ May 2, 2008 -> 06:58 AM) it really should be Yes it should, but there will be more than few who can't see past the 6 championships in a team sport for individual greatness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ May 1, 2008 -> 05:10 PM) So, I'm wondering.. Would anyone be interested in doing a writeup or two regarding your favorite guy(s) on the list? We might be using this list to promote talkchicagosports. I'd be willing to write a couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 (edited) I can copy and paste some wiki data on any of my guys. I'm guessing I have one guy ranked higher than anyone else(#3)...I'll gladly do a write up on him if he makes the top 50. Edited May 2, 2008 by Controlled Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandy125 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ May 2, 2008 -> 06:47 AM) Yes it should, but there will be more than few who can't see past the 6 championships in a team sport for individual greatness. That is who I would put at number 1, and I really am not sure who you are talking about right now. I actually decided not to send a list in on this one because I think I am too young and do not have a good idea at all about former greats that I have not seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 i assume that this takes into account what they did in chicago...for instance...tom seaver doesnt really count right? or does he...he played for the sox, but did very little for them...but in terms of the clubs history, he was the best pitcher that ever pitched for them...so do i put him ahead of someone like fergie jenkins, who overall may have been an inferior pitcher, but was far superior when it came to playing time in chicago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 2, 2008 Author Share Posted May 2, 2008 If he played for Chicago, he counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ May 2, 2008 -> 12:09 PM) If he played for Chicago, he counts. I didn't exactly look at it like that. I took into account longjevity with a Chicago team with the exception of Dick Allen, who had perhaps a couple of his best years while he was with the Sox. Seaver was pretty good with the Sox but not great. Taking into account some greats that played only a little with a Chicago team just gets too confusing. Rocky Colavito, Ken Boyer, Steve Carlton, just to name a few, were some guys who had really good careers but only played briefly with the Sox. Going way back, Al Simmons is a Hall of Famer but only played a couple of years with the Sox. There's probably lots of guys who played for a brief time with the Sox, Cubs, Bears, Bulls and Blackhawks. I just can't think of any at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ May 2, 2008 -> 12:57 PM) i assume that this takes into account what they did in chicago...for instance...tom seaver doesnt really count right? or does he...he played for the sox, but did very little for them...but in terms of the clubs history, he was the best pitcher that ever pitched for them...so do i put him ahead of someone like fergie jenkins, who overall may have been an inferior pitcher, but was far superior when it came to playing time in chicago? Whaaaaaaat? Seaver as the greatest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ May 3, 2008 -> 02:02 PM) Whaaaaaaat? Seaver as the greatest? http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/...-best-pitchers/ lol i dont know either way...they were both good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 So how many lists have you received so far for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 7, 2008 Author Share Posted May 7, 2008 12 from Soxtalk, about 5 from TalkBears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ May 7, 2008 -> 02:23 PM) 12 from Soxtalk, about 5 from TalkBears. You mean I can vote twice? Swwwweeeeeeeeeeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 8, 2008 Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ May 8, 2008 -> 10:58 AM) You mean I can vote twice? Swwwweeeeeeeeeeet If the list is different enough, I can go Tex and Tex's Evil Twin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ May 8, 2008 -> 10:01 AM) If the list is different enough, I can go Tex and Tex's Evil Twin. I can be wrong twice! btw, that first post should have been in green, noobie error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 10, 2008 Author Share Posted May 10, 2008 Thanks to the 13 guys so far who have sent in lists! Eight more days until I put it all together! Can we get to the 23 lists that we had last time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 11, 2008 Author Share Posted May 11, 2008 7 days left! No one new has sent me a list since the last update. Cmon... It's not hard to make a list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 14, 2008 Author Share Posted May 14, 2008 4 days left! I've only gotten one more list since the last update! Cmon... It's not hard to make a list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (knightni @ May 14, 2008 -> 06:36 PM) 4 days left! I've only gotten one more list since the last update! Cmon... It's not hard to make a list! Knightni...I know Sox related threads are moved right away....but would it hurt to have a thread in pale hose with a link to this one. There are a lot of people who come to this site and never venture out of pale hose talk. Edited May 15, 2008 by Controlled Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 16, 2008 Author Share Posted May 16, 2008 Three days left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ May 16, 2008 -> 04:25 PM) Three days left! Did you get the Pippen write up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ May 17, 2008 -> 11:42 PM) Did you get the Pippen write up? Yes. But with no one else sending me a write-up, I'm not sure I can use it. I'm not really prepared to write 34-49 bios on everyone else on my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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