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He had missed the previous two weeks with a hamstring injury. He has played in two games since coming back (not counting Sunday's game) and last night hit 3 HR's. The guy is our best position prospect who hasn't gotten any major league action yet (ie Josh Fields).

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QUOTE (scenario @ May 4, 2008 -> 04:20 PM)
Two more hits today (Sunday).

 

That makes him 6 for 13 in 3 games since returning from the DL.

 

Had a nice article about him on milb.com today too.

 

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/ar...b&fext=.jsp

"I worked the count a little bit. I knew the guy was going to throw something offspeed, so I just wanted to stay back and try to pull the ball," he explained.

 

Stay back and pull the ball? That doesn't make much sense at all. When you stay back, it's because you're letting the ball get deep and hitting it opposite field.

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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 7, 2008 -> 12:19 AM)
Stay back and pull the ball? That doesn't make much sense at all. When you stay back, it's because you're letting the ball get deep and hitting it opposite field.

yeah, maybe on fastballs. But he was waiting for the change or curve. Just because you stay back doesn't mean you have to go oppo.

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QUOTE (BearSox @ May 7, 2008 -> 05:06 AM)
yeah, maybe on fastballs. But he was waiting for the change or curve. Just because you stay back doesn't mean you have to go oppo.

You're not supposed to pull the ball on an off-speed pitch anyway. He says he was waiting for an off-speed pitch and stayed back to pull it. It doesn't make sense.

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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 7, 2008 -> 03:06 PM)
You're not supposed to pull the ball on an off-speed pitch anyway. He says he was waiting for an off-speed pitch and stayed back to pull it. It doesn't make sense.

 

 

You're not supposed to pull an off-speed pitch? The purpose of an off speed pitch is often to get you (the batter) out in front. Thats why people have to "try and sit back" on those pitches. Waiting even longer to go the other way is even tougher. It's easier to pull an off-speed pitch than it is to wait and go the other way with it.

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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 7, 2008 -> 01:06 PM)
You're not supposed to pull the ball on an off-speed pitch anyway. He says he was waiting for an off-speed pitch and stayed back to pull it. It doesn't make sense.

If the pitch is middle in and off-speed, a good hitter will stay back on the ball and than explode on the ball and pull it. Now if it is on the outer half of the plate there is another approach. At least that is what I was always taught, but I was never that good of a hitter (luckily for most of my youth I was a damn good pitcher, pre injury of course).

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 7, 2008 -> 04:25 PM)
If the pitch is middle in and off-speed, a good hitter will stay back on the ball and than explode on the ball and pull it. Now if it is on the outer half of the plate there is another approach. At least that is what I was always taught, but I was never that good of a hitter (luckily for most of my youth I was a damn good pitcher, pre injury of course).

I guess the location of the pitch is important in this scenario. If it was inside, then Shelby is right, but if it was outside, well...

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 7, 2008 -> 03:19 PM)
You're not supposed to pull an off-speed pitch? The purpose of an off speed pitch is often to get you (the batter) out in front. Thats why people have to "try and sit back" on those pitches. Waiting even longer to go the other way is even tougher. It's easier to pull an off-speed pitch than it is to wait and go the other way with it.

 

I was taught to try to drive the breaking pitches to right or up the middle. The problem with going out and trying to pull the breaking pitch is the timing. You often pull the ball foul a bunch of times, and pulling and elevating a breaking pitch that is dropping down on you is very hard to do. It often creates a false upper cut swing. The other thing is as a right hander, the breaking pitch rarely moves on a true 12/6. Usually it moves away from you. You want to drive through the ball with a level swing, and let your hands high finish provide the lift.

 

Pitchers throw breaking pitches to get hitters to pull them on the ground, or pop them up due to the false upper cut swing.

 

 

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