White Sox Clubhouse and Sex Dolls

[Harry Chappas]

This is a really stupid and pointless debate.

 

Who is the outraged female reporter that was in the lockerrom? Please link her story so I can get this point of view, not what her point of view should or would be. What is her stance.

 

Carol Slezak is as bad as Moronotti and his dolt sidekick Couch.

 

I think it was kind of dumb but not really a story.

[EvilMonkey]

After reading her commentary, this line stuck out to me."Do you think the players respect women? I'm not so sure about that." So, if players do this, they don't respect women. How many guys here have gone to strip clubs? Do they now not respect women because they had a good time stuffing a buck in some woman's g-string or enjoyed tits in their faces? How many guys have called a woman a b****? Are they now forever more anti-woman? That sort of absolute thinking is just wrong.

 

[chimpy2121]

Hmmm...did Joe really have a migraine or was he just having too much fun in the clubhouse?

[kapkomet]

This is a really stupid and pointless debate.

 

Who is the outraged female reporter that was in the lockerrom? Please link her story so I can get this point of view, not what her point of view should or would be. What is her stance.

 

Carol Slezak is as bad as Moronotti and his dolt sidekick Couch.

 

I think it was kind of dumb but not really a story.

It's a story because they (the players) are stupid, not because they are offensive.

[Controlled Chaos]

Do you think the players respect women? I'm not so sure about that.

 

What does doing anything to a blow up doll...have to do with respecting women?? One is alive the other is made of plastic.

[Controlled Chaos]

Hmmm...did Joe really have a migraine or was he just having too much fun in the clubhouse?

hahaha

[EvilMonkey]

Do you think the players respect women? I'm not so sure about that.

 

What does doing anything to a blow up doll...have to do with respecting women?? One is alive the other is made of plastic.

Manufactured outrage.

[Harry Chappas]

I was referring to some of the comments in this thread. My thoughts on this 'incident' are inline with kap's.

 

Edit: slezak's on Waddle and Silvy right now. She said her problem was with how unprofessional it was. Also, that they defended it instead of admitting a mistake.

 

They are baseball players what line of professionalism are they required to have? They are not doctors, attornies, teachers, hell they have no other respnsability other than to entertain me on the baseball field. This is a story because the media wants it to be. If you think they are to be role models than this should never leave the clubhouse. The media makes this an issue. What really is the point of this story?

Edited May 6, 2008 by Jenks Heat

[Flash Tizzle]

Then open your eyes.

 

I'll save you from having to type the "Carol Slezak's just a b****" and "But she cried about Greg Olsen's rap song!" responses... Let's put those retorts in our back pocket and just talk about how stupid the White Sox are for allowing this to happen.

I guess I was expecting something more significant than Slezak. Or even ESPN. When it enters the mainstream media, in outlets such as FoxNews or CNN, then you can begin talking about ramifications. When I heard you use the term, that's what I envision. Nationwide exposure to an audience not just involved with sports.

 

Far as the White Sox allowing it to happen, should they have seen this coming? It should underscore the likelihood that there is a LOT that happens in the clubhouse that people would b**** about if it were made public.

[Steve9347]

Manufactured outrage.

Call it what you want. If the Yankees did this Steinbrenner would be outraged.

 

But that's just a classy organization. We're the dirty Sox with our foul mouthed manager making a joke out of the franchise. The inmates are running the asylum.

[Controlled Chaos]

I was referring to some of the comments in this thread. My thoughts on this 'incident' are inline with kap's.

 

Edit: slezak's on Waddle and Silvy right now. She said her problem was with how unprofessional it was. Also, that they defended it instead of admitting a mistake.

Glad Waddle and Silvy think it's BS.

 

 

[lostfan]

After reading her commentary, this line stuck out to me."Do you think the players respect women? I'm not so sure about that." So, if players do this, they don't respect women. How many guys here have gone to strip clubs? Do they now not respect women because they had a good time stuffing a buck in some woman's g-string or enjoyed tits in their faces? How many guys have called a woman a b****? Are they now forever more anti-woman? That sort of absolute thinking is just wrong.

^^ Been waiting for someone who I usually disagree with to say something like that.

[Leonard Zelig]

It's their locker room, if they want to do stupid s*** like this they should be able to. The bad judgement was not removing the dolls before the reporters were allowed in.

[tonyho7476]

Glad Waddle and Silvy think it's BS.

 

So you'll be able to sleep better now? Are they like your prophets?

[Harry Chappas]

The Chevy Pride Crew is more sexist than a blow up doll.

 

If Pride Crew was about White Sox Pride. There would be 8 guys from Soxtalk and a few chicks throwing shirts into the crowd and taking a run at Ozuna for last evening. It has nothing to do with Sox Pride.

 

Carol should write about the sexism in Arena football where every team is obligated to have a set of ladies continually entertain the crowd. Ladies that are not full of team pride by the way.

 

 

[shipps]

I havent read through this whole thread because its such a stupid story.Its not far fetched to assume Swisher was probably behind all this,I hope that Iam not the only one who finds his whole act old right now.He is not even funny,his energy might be good for the clubhouse but he needs to tone it down a notch on the immaturity.

[Steve9347]

I havent read through this whole thread because its such a stupid story.Its not far fetched to assume Swisher was probably behind all this,I hope that Iam not the only one who finds his whole act old right now.He is not even funny,his energy might be good for the clubhouse but he needs to tone it down a notch on the immaturity.

Or start getting hits.

[Texsox]

I don't find it offensive, but I do find it sad. These guys are more about acting like 15 year olds then being professionals playing a game they get paid millions to play. Great clubhouse leadership here.

 

If an employee of a company pulled a prank that was offensive to a large portion of their customers, they would be reprimanded, not defended. This is a workplace, no amount of money, fame, or power removes them from workplace laws. The $10,000,000 earning CEO of a major corporation can't put up porn in his office and say f*** the b****es that can't take a joke. And neither should professional athletes. Why is it too much to ask grown men to act like adults?

[Steve9347]

It's their locker room, if they want to do stupid s*** like this they should be able to. The bad judgement was not removing the dolls before the reporters were allowed in.

No s*** Sherlock.

[Controlled Chaos]

So you'll be able to sleep better now? Are they like your prophets?

Not really...in fact it's the first time I ever listened to them. I'm just glad they aren't perpetuating the idea this was somehow disrespecting women.

But thanks for your comment.

[vandy125]

I see the whole thing as kind of a frat type of incident, but one thing I wonder is the men's lockerroom of a baseball team really a reporter's workplace? If you are going to subject that to those types of considerations, then you need to do that for every place a reporter goes to get information on a story. A reporter in Iraq isn't going to think , "goodness, they really need to make this workplace better for me." Get over it. You are writing stories from a men's locker room. You should have some sort of understanding of what that environment is like.

[Steve9347]

 

If an employee of a company pulled a prank that was offensive to a large portion of their customers, they would be reprimanded, not defended. This is a workplace, no amount of money, fame, or power removes them from workplace laws. The $10,000,000 earning CEO of a major corporation can't put up porn in his office and say f*** the b****es that can't take a joke. And neither should professional athletes. Why is it too much to ask grown men to act like adults?

Post of the millenium.

[Steve9347]

I see the whole thing as kind of a frat type of incident, but one thing I wonder is the men's lockerroom of a baseball team really a reporter's workplace? If you are going to subject that to those types of considerations, then you need to do that for every place a reporter goes to get information on a story. A reporter in Iraq isn't going to think , "goodness, they really need to make this workplace better for me." Get over it. You are writing stories from a men's locker room. You should have some sort of understanding of what that environment is like.

Mannnn, you did not just compare a baseball locker room to Iraq.

 

There's so many reasons that's ridiculous.

[Flash Tizzle]

 

If an employee of a company pulled a prank that was offensive to a large portion of their customers, they would be reprimanded, not defended. This is a workplace, no amount of money, fame, or power removes them from workplace laws. The $10,000,000 earning CEO of a major corporation can't put up porn in his office and say f*** the b****es that can't take a joke. And neither should professional athletes. Why is it too much to ask grown men to act like adults?

Why are you acting like it's fair to compare anything that happens within a baseball clubhouse to an ordinary job? Athletes don't operate in this world of equality and fairness that you've layed out here. They are playing a child's game, afterall. Does it shock you they act like children and are defended by actions that would land most people in the unemployment line?

[vandy125]

Mannnn, you did not just compare a baseball locker room to Iraq.

 

There's so many reasons that's ridiculous.

 

Sure did go to an extreme there However, how about the point of knowing what the environment is like that you are reporting in? You can't say that this is now my workplace since I am reporting here and must be subject to these rules. Part of the job is going into these environments.

Edited May 6, 2008 by vandy125