White Sox Clubhouse and Sex Dolls

[Linnwood]

I can not believe this generated 350+ posts.

[Texsox]

It was fun. Grown men needed to place bats up dolls rectums; knowing it could and probably would be reported. Sox fans defend the action. A proud day to be a Sox fan

[EvilMonkey]

It was fun. Grown men needed to place bats up dolls rectums; knowing it could and probably would be reported. Sox fans defend the action. A proud day to be a Sox fan

I think more people here criticized your (and others) reactions to it than supported the actual act.

[RockRaines]

It was fun. Grown men needed to place bats up dolls rectums; knowing it could and probably would be reported. Sox fans defend the action. A proud day to be a Sox fan

Your movement for respect to all blowup dolls everywhere is commendable sir.

 

 

Are you this sensitive at home? TV must kill you.

[RockRaines]

You know if we were winning or this led to a winning streak, 99.9 percent of this board would be happy about this keeping the clubhouse loose. Maybe then it would make the MLB page on ESPN.

[SkokieSox]

Reminds me of Major League when they were stripping down the boss for each win. I could care a less of what people think of the situation, as some people will complain to hear themselves talk. One thing is for sure though, the only good resolution to this is to get on another hot streak. Winning cures all woes...

[WCSox]

Since it is an unfortunate reality that reporters are allowed in the locker rooms... and having read the arguments here... I am going to have to agree with Tex, in that the team really f***ed up here leaving that out in view.

 

I agree with that. Then again, I don't agree that this stupid, tasteless incident is something to get super-upset about. I guess I fall into the middle of the two warring factions here.

 

 

[TheBigHurt]

It was fun. Grown men needed to place bats up dolls rectums; knowing it could and probably would be reported. Sox fans defend the action. A proud day to be a Sox fan

 

In all honesty, I have to ask... who GIVES a s***???

[RockRaines]

In all honesty, I have to ask... who GIVES a s***???

I just wanna see Tex say thank god for blow up doll sodomy.

[greg775]

The Sox were dumb in leaving the doll in the locker room for all to see.

After every player stuffed the bats in the doll's openings, the doll shoulda been kicked into the back room.

Bad judgment by those who didn't yank the doll before the media arrived? Yes.

Is this a big deal? NO.

 

I'm now gonna read the Sun Times and Trib and see what the columnists are saying.

 

 

[Buehrle>Wood]

Does anyone have pics?

[santo=dorf]

It is a story because it is so far outside the boundaries of acceptable behavior in a workplace.

Your opinion.

 

I wouldn't compare any locker room to my work desk. How about we let the White Sox Organization decide their code of conducts for the locker room? We don't work there, so why do you care?

 

I can understand if Slezak was offended by it, but if it's the White Sox's policy on their own turf, deal with it or stay out.

 

How long until a female report complains seeing Uribe or Hall walking around naked and demands to have the Sox shower in swim trunks?

[santo=dorf]

The work place. The place you report to on a daily basis to make your living. When you work for a company, you are always a representative of said company. In today's environment, in most cases, if you do something to publically embarrass your company you will lose your job unless your in a union of something. Even then, you will have a tough row to hoe. If you are the average working man, in almost all cases you'll be booted out on ass. I realize these guys aren't your average working man. But people, if you think you can pull a stunt like this on your job and get away with, for the most part you'll be seriously shocked upon your dismissal.

 

The players won't be 'fired' because they can hit major league pitching (I know, arguable at best) or they can get out ML hitters. But, they still have to deal with public perception and they are under a microscope compared to average working guy. They really should have known better. The entire team is being scutinized because of the actions of a few. If these reports are going to report on what happens in the clubhouse, then do it. Who did what? Why should Jim Thome have to be thrown under the bus when Nick Swisher did this? (hypothetically speaking on the players names for the case of making the point)

 

Wrong is wrong regardless of the circumstances under which the wrong occured.

The players work in the locker room?

All reporters work for the White Sox?

Every business has the same code of conduct?

 

 

Who ultimately decides what should be in the locker room?

 

Reporters? the owner? GM? Manager? Tax paying citizens? The state government? The feds?

[YASNY]

The players work in the locker room?

All reporters work for the White Sox?

Every business has the same code of conduct?

 

 

Who ultimately decides what should be in the locker room?

 

Reporters? the owner? GM? Manager? Tax paying citizens? The state government? The feds?

 

What's your point?

[santo=dorf]

- Better get rid of all porno mags.

- No music that contains explicit lyrics. Multiple times I heard words like "f***," "s***," and "n****" slip through the news censors.

- No tobacco anywhere in the clubhouse. How are we supposed to expect parents to explain to kids what their idols are doing.

- Swim trunks in the shower. There are uncensored youtube videos of athletes walking by the camera bottomless.

- Greg Maddux should be arrested for sexual assualt. He admitted he pisses on rookies in the shower. I can't do that in my workplace.

- Get rid of all alcohol, even after celebrations. It will make children think squirting alcohol and drinking directly out of the bottle is cool and safe

 

 

Although I will probably never step foot in a clubhouse, if by chance it happens one day I would hate to see this material. Perhaps we should get the government involved and nanny us some more.

 

 

After we get done with professional sports locker rooms, we can take our Pat Robertson-like war to our military bases.

[santo=dorf]

What's your point?

You obviously have knowledge of what the White Sox's code of conduct is. How did you get that info and who made the rules?

[whitesoxfan101]

- Better get rid of all porno mags.

- No music that contains explicit lyrics. Multiple times I heard words like "f***," "s***," and "n****" slip through the news censors.

- No tobacco anywhere in the clubhouse. How are we supposed to expect parents to explain to kids what their idols are doing.

- Swim trunks in the shower. There are uncensored youtube videos of athletes walking by the camera bottomless.

- Greg Maddux should be arrested for sexual assualt. He admitted he pisses on rookies in the shower. I can't do that in my workplace.

- Get rid of all alcohol, even after celebrations. It will make children think squirting alcohol and drinking directly out of the bottle is cool and safe

 

 

Although I will probably never step foot in a clubhouse, if by chance it happens one day I would hate to see this material. Perhaps we should get the government involved and nanny us some more.

 

 

After we get done with professional sports locker rooms, we can take our Pat Robertson-like war to our military bases.

 

 

While I don't agree with this, it's no more extreme than what Slezak or TexSox had to say on the other end of the spectrum.

 

[YASNY]

You obviously have knowledge of what the White Sox's code of conduct is. How did you get that info and who made the rules?

 

What the code of conduct is, apparently, and what it should should be are two different things.

[whitesoxfan101]

Why is that the people who's opinion I respect the most in this argument, my women friends, aren't offended? I haven't found a single woman I know to be offended by this. I take that information as more important than anything else to be honest with you.

[DrunkBomber]

Why is that the people who's opinion I respect the most in this argument, my women friends, aren't offended? I haven't found a single woman I know to be offended by this. I take that information as more important than anything else to be honest with you.

I agree. I asked a few women if it offended them and most of them laughed for the most part. One was even waiting for me to say more after I finished the story as if she was waiting to hear the bad part. Another brought up the point that if she were to be offended by anything work related it would be if women reporters didnt make as much as men reporters and even went as far to say that having to handle something like this so delicately because of women being in the guys locker room than that is taking steps backwards from the strides theyve made over the years. Its amazing that everyone up in arms about this is listing it offends women as a reason but it doesnt sound like any women that saw it were.

[sin city sox fan]

If blow up dolls make the bats wake up, I say lets get some hookers, sex toys, and a couple of nympho midgets in the locker room to really heat things up!

[DrunkBomber]

If blow up dolls make the bats wake up, I say lets get some hookers, sex toys, and a couple of nympho midgets in the locker room to really heat things up!

I heard Contreras ate a live chicken before the game today

[BearSox]

why in the world is this big news at all? Hell, this isn't even really news. Who the f*** gives a s***? Plenty of crap goes down in locker rooms. My goodness.

[zenryan]

sounds like the Sox stole this idea from the University of Central Florida head baseball coach.

 

except the UCF coach of 28 years used a male equipment intern instead of a blowup doll to poke with a bat.

 

He was fired last week.

 

hahaha

[zenryan]

Sources: UCF baseball coach harassed equipment manager

A lawyer for Jay Bergman says his firing is not warranted.

 

 

The University of Central Florida fired baseball coach Jay Bergman because he was accused of sexually harassing a team equipment manager, a university source has confirmed.

 

Bergman used a bat to simulate raping equipment manager Chris Rhyce in early March, said the university source and two other sources with knowledge of the allegation. The university source asked for anonymity because he is not authorized to speak for UCF.

 

The three sources said Rhyce told the university in a written complaint that he was held down on the field, fully clothed, by a baseball staff member before a March 7 game while the players watched. Bergman was said to have grabbed a bat and shoved it toward Rhyce's buttocks.

 

Bergman coached for almost 26 years at UCF.

 

 

"I was completely shocked by these allegations," Bergman said. "Anyone who has worked with me throughout my 40-year career knows that I am not capable of any behavior that is intentionally disrespectful to my players or staff."

 

Bergman was told of his firing Thursday and has vehemently denied the allegations, said Jill Schwartz, Bergman's attorney.

 

"Coach Bergman hasn't done anything that would warrant termination," Schwartz told the Sentinel on Friday afternoon. "The coach has for 40 years [of coaching] conducted himself in a very professional manner. If he had a problem that was in any way inappropriate, it would have surfaced during 40 years of coaching young men. He is shocked by this."

 

UCF Athletics Director Keith Tribble declined comment on why Bergman was fired.

 

Tribble said the university doesn't have to pay Bergman for the remaining two years of his $82,036-per-season contract.

 

Rhyce, in an exclusive interview with the Sentinel, referred all questions to his attorney but did say: "I can certainly understand the admiration from the community toward Coach Bergman. It's regrettable that his actions led to this."

 

Rhyce's attorney, Thomas Pilacek, has not returned phone calls. The three sources said Rhyce claimed to have been dealing with other forms of harassment from Bergman for several months and finally was fed up and reported the incident to his supervisor in March.

 

Rhyce had been a paid intern with the team since August of last year. According to the UCF media guide, he spent the 2003 and 2006 spring-training seasons working in baseball operations for the New York Yankees. He also worked in the marketing department at Florida State University, where he graduated in 2005. After he informed the university of the incident, Rhyce was transferred to another position at the university.

 

In a statement issued Friday, Schwartz said: "When confronted with the University's concern, he simply requested an opportunity to address the issues in a professional manner. Instead, while Coach Bergman was traveling to Tampa for a night game, he was ambushed with a demand that he resign in less than a 48-hour period if he wished to avoid being fired."

 

Schwartz categorized the allegations as "grossly exaggerated" and said the university needed a reason to get rid of the coach because the team's record has declined in recent years. UCF was 27-19 this season when Bergman was dismissed.

 

Schwartz said, "Is it a locker room? Sure. But he's a coach who has been routinely complimented for the polite behavior of his team. You have to look at the credibility [of the equipment manager and the coach] here."

 

Bergman's tenure at UCF has had its ups and downs. His teams have won six conference championships; the baseball stadium is named after him. He finished with a 994-594-3 record at UCF and 1,210-707-3 overall in 36 Division I seasons. But the team has struggled since moving from the Atlantic Sun Conference to the more competitive Conference USA in 2005.

 

This weekend the UCF team is playing at Tulane; players have been unavailable for comment. The team will be coached by associate head coach Craig Cozart for the rest of the season.

 

Bergman hasn't been without incident at the school. In 2006, he was suspended for a baseball game for putting his hands on the neck of a freshman pitcher in the dugout.

 

"Jay's record speaks for itself over the years," said Tribble, the athletic director. "I don't know many people who have accomplished what he did. He's one that's been highly regarded over many years."