Controlled Chaos Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Anyone here want to explain to me what shold be going on down there? I mean there is constant b****ing when Ozzie overplays the righty lefty matchup. I'm even one who b****es about it. Now he has Linebrink as the 8th inning setup guy and surprise surprise...calls on him in the 8th inning and a lot of people were b****ing about that? I just don't get it and before someone mistakes me for an Ozzie apologist..let me assure you I'm not. But Linebrink walks Mauer and people are blaming Ozzie? WTF? Then he throws a couple wild pitches...guess whose fault....Ozzie. Linebrink is getting paid to be the setup man...he is getting paid to get big outs....how about a little accoutability on him. And I don't know the stats and I'm sure someone will correct me and post the splits, but I just think Mauer is a good f***in hitter no matter who is throwin it to him. I don't mind the righty lefty match up when the percentages dictate it...but a great hitter is a great hitter. When Ozzie does something moronic like not put his best defense on the field...I can see getting on him. When he doesn't have his players shifted correctly in the outfield..I can see getting on him. Those things are just flat out stupid and you're not putting your players in the best position to succeed. That isn't a judgement call...it's just fact. But something like bringing Linebrink in...your setup man...in that situation yesterday, is a judgement call. It may be right, it may be wrong...could go either way, but for people to so matter of factly think it's wrong, IMO is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Well there was the time in Baltimore, when I was at the game, he had Matt Thornton relieve Floyd. I get up to go to the bathroom, I come back to find out he struck out whoever he was facing on three pitches and see Boone coming in from the bullpen. Boone proceeds to implode as he apparently temporarily forgot what a strike zone was, and they end up losing the game after Bobby blows the save. Ultimately that's on Bobby, but those are the kinds of things Ozzie does that piss me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 9, 2008 -> 08:45 AM) Well there was the time in Baltimore, when I was at the game, he had Matt Thornton relieve Floyd. I get up to go to the bathroom, I come back to find out he struck out whoever he was facing on three pitches and see Boone coming in from the bullpen. Boone proceeds to implode as he apparently temporarily forgot what a strike zone was, and they end up losing the game after Bobby blows the save. Ultimately that's on Bobby, but those are the kinds of things Ozzie does that piss me off. So Ozzie's supposed to foresee that Boone can't throw a strike and Bobby would blow a save? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (YASNY @ May 9, 2008 -> 08:49 AM) So Ozzie's supposed to foresee that Boone can't throw a strike and Bobby would blow a save? Why take out Thornton after facing one batter to replace him with another lefty? Thornton is not a LOOGY and he gave no reason to be pulled. It made no sense at all. edit: I'm looking at the box score to make sure I had the facts straight since I can't call minute details like that - Thornton threw 4 pitches but it still was a K, also I can't remember what inning it was he threw in and now I'm pretty sure it was Dotel and not Logan that relieved him, Logan pitched in extras I think. But I still had a sour taste in my mouth after that game. Edited May 9, 2008 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Ok, good point. He may have thought Boone needed some work. I don't know. He did have Bobby in the pen if he needed him, and that's the part that didn't work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (YASNY @ May 9, 2008 -> 09:03 AM) Ok, good point. He may have thought Boone needed some work. I don't know. He did have Bobby in the pen if he needed him, and that's the part that didn't work out. See edit: I mis-remembered. Ozzie isn't THAT crazy. But I was just upset he only faced one guy. The only hitter on that team I'd treat like that is Markakis, but I think it was Millar he was pitching to since Markakis had just homered. Millar does not scare me at all. But Luke Scott is after Millar and while Scott was hot at the time it's still a lefty-lefty matchup. I just didn't get it. I also recall some untimely errors late in the game too that didn't help Bobby much. But yeah that was still on Bobby in the end, Camden Yards owns him. Edited May 9, 2008 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 9, 2008 -> 08:13 AM) See edit: I mis-remembered. Ozzie isn't THAT crazy. But I was just upset he only faced one guy. The only hitter on that team I'd treat like that is Markakis, but I think it was Millar he was pitching to since Markakis had just homered. Millar does not scare me at all. But Luke Scott is after Millar and while Scott was hot at the time it's still a lefty-lefty matchup. I just didn't get it. I also recall some untimely errors late in the game too that didn't help Bobby much. But yeah that was still on Bobby in the end, Camden Yards owns him. Baltimore owns him. They did the same thing to him at the Cell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ May 9, 2008 -> 09:22 AM) Baltimore owns him. They did the same thing to him at the Cell His ERA against them is like 9 which I didn't even realize. I remember saying to my friend "you guys don't want to see Jenks so you need to score now" and he goes "yeah yeah you said that last time." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 9, 2008 -> 08:29 AM) His ERA against them is like 9 which I didn't even realize. I remember saying to my friend "you guys don't want to see Jenks so you need to score now" and he goes "yeah yeah you said that last time." the first game he blew against them came after he went 3 straight games, didnt it? And then the second blown save was after excessive time off, right? I think thats what happened, i remember the circumstances were kind of wierd for at least on of them, maybe both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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