lostfan Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) Lineup: 2B – Jackie Robinson C – Yogi Berra DH – Babe Ruth CF – Willie Mays 3B – Alex Rodriguez LF – Ted Williams RF – Hank Aaron 1B – Lou Gehrig SS – Cal Ripken SP1 – Pedro Martinez SP2 – Sandy Koufax SP3 – Tom Seaver SP4 – Nolan Ryan SP5 – Satchel Paige MR: Goose Gossage SU: Dennis Eckersley CL: Mariano Rivera Bench: Ken Griffey Jr., Ty Cobb, Brooks Robinson, Ernie Banks, Carlton Fisk, Frank Thomas (homer pick) Note: I didn't mess with dead ball-era pitchers or I'd have put Cy Young and Walter Johnson as 1 and 2. So many honorable mentions and good players squeezed out I can't even name them all. Edited May 17, 2008 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Willie Mays - CF Rogers Hornsby - 2B Ted Williams - LF Babe Ruth - RF Lou Gehrig - 1B Alex Rodriguez - 3B Ernie Banks - SS Mickey Cochrane - C Walter Johnson - P Mickey Mantle - CF Pete Rose - Util Johnny Bench - C Ty Cobb - OF Honus Wagner - SS Bob Gibson - P Sandy Koufax - P Steve Carlton - P Christy Mathewson - P Dennis Eckersley - SU Nolan Ryan - CL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) SS - Honus Wagner 2b - Joe Morgan DH - Babe Ruth CF - Willie Mays RF - Ted Williams LF - Barry Bonds 3b - Alex Rodriguez 1b - Lou Gehrig C- Josh Gibson (if negro leaguers count, satchel paige was in a previous list so i included him, if not Berra slight edge over Bench. On that note I was tempted to put Oscar Charleston, but it seems difficult to put him over any of the OFers, while Gibson over Berra I am ok with) SP - Walter Johnson Cy Young Bob Gibson Greg Maddux Lefty Grove Bullpen - CP Mariano Rivera, Hoyt Wilhem, Tom Seaver (gotta have a long man) I was tempted to put arod at short and brooks robinson at 3rd, but for the sake of a leadoff man I went with Wagner (and wagner was arguably a better player than robinson anyways) BTW Knight...this seems like as good of an idea as any for the next "Lets make a list" ....if we have a long time it would be pretty sweet to do maybe a top 10 at each position and at the end compile it all....if you dont organize it, maybe i will Edited May 17, 2008 by daa84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ May 17, 2008 -> 09:54 AM) SS - Honus Wagner 2b - Joe Morgan DH - Babe Ruth CF - Willie Mays RF - Ted Williams LF - Barry Bonds 3b - Alex Rodriguez 1b - Lou Gehrig C- Josh Gibson (if negro leaguers count, satchel paige was in a previous list so i included him, if not Berra slight edge over Bench. On that note I was tempted to put Oscar Charleston, but it seems difficult to put him over any of the OFers, while Gibson over Berra I am ok with) SP - Walter Johnson Cy Young Bob Gibson Greg Maddux Lefty Grove Bullpen - CP Mariano Rivera, Hoyt Wilhem, Tom Seaver (gotta have a long man) I was tempted to put arod at short and frank robinson at 3rd, but for the sake of a leadoff man I went with Wagner (and wagner was arguably a better player than robinson anyways) BTW Knight...this seems like as good of an idea as any for the next "Lets make a list" ....if we have a long time it would be pretty sweet to do maybe a top 10 at each position and at the end compile it all....if you dont organize it, maybe i will I'm sure you mean Brooks Robinson at third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (YASNY @ May 17, 2008 -> 11:56 AM) I'm sure you mean Brooks Robinson at third. bah obviously...thanks....damn orioles named robinson Edited May 17, 2008 by daa84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I find it extremely difficult to compare players I have seen play to those that came before my time. For example, I think Roberto Clemente was one the greatest players I have ever seen, but how can I pick him over the Babe. Then, where does Stan Musial fit in to the equation? In the Chicago athletes list, I only included players I have seen play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 LF - Ted Williams CF - Mantle RF - Clemente 3B - A Rod SS - Wagner 2B - Rogers Hornsby 1B - Gehrig C - Dickey DH - Ruth SP - Grover Cleveland Alexander - Gibson - Walter Johnson - Carlton - Mathewson RP - Fingers - Rivera - Wilhelm To complete a 25 man roster: Joe DiMaggio, Musial, Morgan, Brooks Robinson, Berra, Koufax, Lefty Grove and Nolan Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mplssoxfan Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ May 17, 2008 -> 11:05 AM) LF - Ted Williams CF - Mantle RF - Clemente 3B - A Rod SS - Wagner 2B - Rogers Hornsby 1B - Gehrig C - Dickey DH - Ruth SP - Grover Cleveland Alexander - Gibson - Walter Johnson - Carlton - Mathewson RP - Fingers - Rivera - Wilhelm To complete a 25 man roster: Joe DiMaggio, Musial, Morgan, Brooks Robinson, Berra, Koufax, Lefty Grove and Nolan Ryan What? No Ed Walsh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Mmm, needs more Erstad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Podsednik - LF Iguchi - 2B Dye - RF Konerko - 1B Everett - DH Rowand - CF Pierzynski - C Crede - 2B Uribe - SS SP - Contreras, Buehrle, Garland, Garcia, El Duque Closer - Jenks 99 Regular Season wins, 11-1 in the playoffs, and 1st place wire to wire. Ok, 2B – Rogers Hornsby SS – Honus Wagner CF – Willie Mays DH – Babe Ruth 3B – Alex Rodriguez LF – Ted Williams RF – Vladimir Guerrero 1B – Lou Gehrig C – Mike Piazza SP1 – Pedro Martinez SP2 – Sandy Koufax SP3 – Nolan Ryan SP4 – Johan Santana SP5 – Walter Johnson Closer - Mariano Rivera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 LF - Carlos Quentin nothing else matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Line-Up: LF Rickey Henderson SS Honus Wagner DH Barry Bonds RF Babe Ruth CF Willie Mays 1B Lou Gehrig C Johnny Bench 2B Rogers Hornsby 3B Wade Boggs Bench: C Yogi Berra 1B Willie McCovey IF Alex Rodriguez IF Cal Ripken Jr. OF Ted Williams Starting Rotation: SP: Bob Gibson SP: Pedro Martinez SP: Satchel Paige SP: Randy Johnson SP: Christy Mathewson Bullpen: LR: Ed Walsh MR: Dennis Eckersley MR: Goose Gossage MR: Trevor Hoffman SU: Rollie Fingers CL: Mariano Rivera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 25 Man Roster Batting Order 1.) Honus Wagner SS R 2.) Ted Williams DH L 3.) Babe Ruth RF L 4.) Alex Rodriguez 3b R 5.) Barry Bonds LF L 6.) Willie Mays CF R 7.) Rogers Hornsby 2b R 8.) Lou Gehrig 1b L 9.) Johnny Bench C R Bench Yogi Berra C L Jimmie Foxx 1b R (#1 RH Pinch Hitter) Stan Musial OF L (#1 LH Pinch Hitter) Rickey Henderson OF R (Primary pinch runner) Eddie Collins INF L (#2 pinch runner) Starting Rotation 1.) Lefty Grove L 2.) Tom Seaver R 3.) Warren Spahn L 4.)Walter Johnson R 5.)Pedro Martinez R Bullpen Hoyt Wilhelm R #1 MR Sparky Lyle L #2 MR Goose Gossage R Long Reliever Billy Wagner L SU Dennis Eckersley R SU Mariano Rivera R CL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 If all players were thrown on the field today, with the talent they possessed/possess at the Major League level, I'd probably take David Eckstein over Honus Wagner. I'm just saying, that dude would've struggled against global competition... Let the beatings begin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 19, 2008 -> 10:36 AM) If all players were thrown on the field today, with the talent they possessed/possess at the Major League level, I'd probably take David Eckstein over Honus Wagner. I'm just saying, that dude would've struggled against global competition... Let the beatings begin! Who knows. This is a point no one could prove no matter what side of the argument you take. To counter what you are saying though, I think it is remarkable that Wagner put up those type of #'s during the dead ball era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 19, 2008 -> 09:36 AM) If all players were thrown on the field today, with the talent they possessed/possess at the Major League level, I'd probably take David Eckstein over Honus Wagner. I'm just saying, that dude would've struggled against global competition... Let the beatings begin! That's a valid argument, but it's questionable as well. Ty Cobb used to place buckets throughout the outfield, then hit baseballs INTO them in batting practice. Bigger, faster, stronger is one thing. Great hand - eye coordination is another. A great baseball player is a great baseball player regardless of era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (YASNY @ May 19, 2008 -> 10:49 AM) That's a valid argument, but it's questionable as well. Ty Cobb used to place buckets throughout the outfield, then hit baseballs INTO them in batting practice. Bigger, faster, stronger is one thing. Great hand - eye coordination is another. A great baseball player is a great baseball player regardless of era. For the purposes of this thread let us just assume that the ballplayers of the past would've benefitted equally from the advantages they have today like better nutrition, workout regimes, film study, scouting reports, and steroids. Also, if you want them on your roster, Negro Leaguers do count, but let's assume they would've still put up good stats in the majors (if slightly degraded). Edited May 19, 2008 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 QUOTE (rangercal @ May 19, 2008 -> 06:34 AM) 25 Man Roster Jimmie Foxx 1b R (#1 RH Pinch Hitter) Jimmie Foxx is the most underrated player in ANY sport of all time in my mind. I like Mel Ott as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 I constantly toy with these lineups and consider a variety of them. I almost always put Ruth and Molitor in, because I'm very fond of them, but I like to consider defense and personality in constructing these lineups. CF Richie Ashburn 2B Paul Molitor RF Babe Ruth 1B Dick Allen 3B Chipper Jones LF Willie Stargell C Roy Campanella SS Adam Everett P SP Greg Maddux Pedro Martinez Dizzy Dean Catfish Hunter Bert Blyleven RP Scot Shields Mike Marshall Troy Percival Billy Wagner No consideration to the bench at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 19, 2008 -> 10:18 AM) Jimmie Foxx is the most underrated player in ANY sport of all time in my mind. I like Mel Ott as well. Double X and Stan the Man do not get the respect they deserve from baseball fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ May 26, 2008 -> 03:07 PM) SS Adam Everett At least pick Ozzie Smith, Luis Aparicio, Omar Vizquel or Dave Concepcion if you're using fielding as your criteria. They weren't one-dimensional, like Everett is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) I should've just gone: C Piazza 1B Gehrig 2B Hornsby 3B Schmidt SS Rodriguez OF Ruth OF Bonds OF Mantle I was just spicing this particular lineup up. Besides, as Bill James cleverly put it: "If Ozzie Smith was half as good as Adam Everett, he was incredible." Of course, I don't believe Everett is quite that good, but that's not the point. Edited May 27, 2008 by Gregory Pratt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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