Steve9347 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 11:15 AM) Pippen > Rose Well, yeah, right now he is the better career Bull... I said when it's all said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Pip was one of the 100 best players at one point right? He will go down as one of the best players ever in the Bulls uni, but also as one of the better players of all time. D Rose has a chance to be every bit as good if not better though. Pip's career stats: 16.1 ppg 6.4 RPG 5.2 APG Alot of that is lowered by his older years, but at his peak he was still only a 20 8 and 6 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 01:59 PM) Pip was one of the 100 best players at one point right? He will go down as one of the best players ever in the Bulls uni, but also as one of the better players of all time. D Rose has a chance to be every bit as good if not better though. Pip's career stats: 16.1 ppg 6.4 RPG 5.2 APG Alot of that is lowered by his older years, but at his peak he was still only a 20 8 and 6 guy. 20/8/6 and one of the greatest defenders in the history of the NBA is pretty damn good. He did play too long though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 QUOTE (shipps @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 11:43 AM) Because Pippen proved he couldnt lead a team by himself. If it wasn't for Hugh Hollins, Pip probably would have lead that team to a championship, by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 12:03 PM) 20/8/6 and one of the greatest defenders in the history of the NBA is pretty damn good. He did play too long though. And frankly, he didn't need to score that much more than that, because there was that other guy putting up 31/7/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 01:43 PM) It amazes me how many people just forget about Scottie Pippen. He's a 1st team all defensive player in the history of the NBA, he was a great player, versatile, could do just about everything, and Michael Jordan isn't Michael Jordan (the best player ever, or even close for that matter) had he not had Scottie Pippen as a teammate. I know Scottie wasn't a great guy and did some things that were stupid, but he was a GREAT player, a legit top 50 player in NBA history. Rose's floor as an NBA player is the 3rd best player in Bulls history (assuming good health) and he is going to be one of the top 3 point guards in the NBA (at least) who plays in double digit all star games. But he has to actually achieve his potential and stay focused for a while before he can go into the category of Jordan or Pippen for that matter. I think he will get there though someday. Took the words out of my mouth. Legit top 50 player, most versatile player ever IMHO. And he did get screwed pretty good in '94 against the Knicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3731403 When Marbury is finally cut/waived/released from the Knicks, is there ANY team that would take on the cancer risk that he brings with him? It is truly amazing that Marbury has been able to squander the talent that he has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Nov 28, 2008 -> 10:02 AM) http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3731403 When Marbury is finally cut/waived/released from the Knicks, is there ANY team that would take on the cancer risk that he brings with him? It is truly amazing that Marbury has been able to squander the talent that he has He kind of reminds me of the Eddie Robinson situation with the Bulls a few years back.They pretty much took the money hit by releasing him and you never seen him again even though he had the talent.Marbury doesnt have a bright future ahead of him. Except for the loads and loads of money that he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Bulls beat the Sixers tonight - went 3-4 on the circus trip. That's acceptable, considering its the best we've done since MJ left (I think). In the span of 40 seconds, Rose came from behind and swatted away a sure lay-up from Andre Miller, and then absolutely broke Miller's ankles. It was SICK, gotta catch that s*** on SC if you missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Nov 30, 2008 -> 06:45 PM) Bulls beat the Sixers tonight - went 3-4 on the circus trip. That's acceptable, considering its the best we've done since MJ left (I think). In the span of 40 seconds, Rose came from behind and swatted away a sure lay-up from Andre Miller, and then absolutely broke Miller's ankles. It was SICK, gotta catch that s*** on SC if you missed it. I almost felt bad for Miller on that cross over. ALMOST. I usually hate Stacey King on commentary but those two plays, he was hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Nov 30, 2008 -> 06:45 PM) Bulls beat the Sixers tonight - went 3-4 on the circus trip. That's acceptable, considering its the best we've done since MJ left (I think). In the span of 40 seconds, Rose came from behind and swatted away a sure lay-up from Andre Miller, and then absolutely broke Miller's ankles. It was SICK, gotta catch that s*** on SC if you missed it. They could have had an above .500 road trip at 4-3 which would have been outstanding considering they were in the Denver and San Antonio games until the 4th quarter (especially the Denver game), but I certainly think we can all live with a 3-4 circus trip after some of the past ones. Good to see Rose get a 10 assist game too, he had a couple 9 ones earlier this year but hadn't hit double digits IIRC. I would guess a triple double is coming soon as well. Edited December 1, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Derrick Rose The Reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Pretty decent road trip for the Bulls, and it looks like they'll be battling for ones of those 6-8 spots in the East all season long. I still think if they could trade very cheaply for Brad Miller (e.g Sefolosa + something for him), they'd certainly make it then. Also the Magic take on the Celtics tonight. Orlando's been argubly the best road team in the NBA so far, but we're incredibly short-handed without Nelson, Pietrus and Bogans, forcing us to start Anthony Johnson and J.J Redick at the guard spots. Shows how good Howard has been (he's in MVP consideration right now IMO), and that Lewis and Hedo have picked up their games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I've developed such a huge man-crush on Pooh, but it will always and forever be PIP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I love Pippen as much as anyone, but when he was called upon in crunch time, he failed and than complained and quit when they didn't go to him. You don't compare Pippen to Rose right now. Rose is about 13 games into his career. In 10 years, it could easily be Rose > Pippen. Right now, the arguement is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (DBAHO @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 01:14 PM) Pretty decent road trip for the Bulls, and it looks like they'll be battling for ones of those 6-8 spots in the East all season long. I still think if they could trade very cheaply for Brad Miller (e.g Sefolosa + something for him), they'd certainly make it then. Also the Magic take on the Celtics tonight. Orlando's been argubly the best road team in the NBA so far, but we're incredibly short-handed without Nelson, Pietrus and Bogans, forcing us to start Anthony Johnson and J.J Redick at the guard spots. Shows how good Howard has been (he's in MVP consideration right now IMO), and that Lewis and Hedo have picked up their games. The best? The Lakers haven't even lost a road game yet, although they have had a heavy dose of home games. Edited December 1, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 05:00 PM) The best? The Lakers haven't even lost a road game yet, although they have had a heavy dose of home games. Well the Celtics put us in our place tonight, so I can't really argue that anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Btw, for those who missed the Derrick Rose show last night: All in one game, simply amazing. Outside of LeBron James, I haven't seen a guy put up 3 plays that good in one game in a long, long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 10:44 PM) All in one game, simply amazing. Outside of LeBron James, I haven't seen a guy put up 3 plays that good in one game in a long, long time. Miller's gonna have nightmares over that cross for years to come. Move over Devin Hester. Derrek Rose YOU ARE RIDICULOUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 09:50 PM) Miller's gonna have nightmares over that cross for years to come. Move over Devin Hester. Derrek Rose YOU ARE RIDICULOUS Derrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 10:31 AM) Derrick D-Rose is so awesome that he transcends having an easily misspelled first name. I forgive him for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 The Drose crossover is the most watched video on youtube today http://www.youtube.com/browse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Bulls lose in OT to Philly. I know beating a team twice in 3 nights is VERY difficult, but the Bulls have to win a game like that if they want to make the playoffs (feel like a broken record as I made this point about the Illini and the NCAA Tournament earlier, but it's true). WAY too many turnovers tonight as Rose even got into the act in that regard (although he was great otherwise), and poor shooting and rebounding tonight as well. Tyrus had a nice game at least, blah that was a tough loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 10:32 PM) Bulls lose in OT to Philly. I know beating a team twice in 3 nights is VERY difficult, but the Bulls have to win a game like that if they want to make the playoffs (feel like a broken record as I made this point about the Illini and the NCAA Tournament earlier, but it's true). WAY too many turnovers tonight as Rose even got into the act in that regard (although he was great otherwise), and poor shooting and rebounding tonight as well. Tyrus had a nice game at least, blah that was a tough loss. Why does Tyrus shoot 18 foot jumpers? Has he ever made that shot? Irritates the piss outta me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 The Bulls really should have won that one. Philly looks like two different teams within the span of 2 minutes. What an odd combination of guys who have no business shooting jump shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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